Granted I should have put "In a nutshell." It still sums up your point.
What are you talking about? When does she ever say or imply that Nihlius was controling her through the bonding ability? The only thing she implies is that she was dominated by his "awesome" power that she goes on and on about. That even if she wanted to leave he would crush her.
Nothing stated implies he had any real "mind control" over her, she says
"He made me see." in Unseen Unheard, but that only seems to give off the impression he showed her what he saw through the force, his pain ect ect. Thus he changed her views on life, and people in general, compunded with the fact she had just seen her entire race slaughtered in an instant, its safe to say she was a little changed by the encounter.
And even if she was it still goes to show his will isn't absolute. That even a weak force user such as Visas could resist him and still have free will, UNLIKE however with the Exile where she was influnced beyond her own control.
See above.
And that goes to strenghtn my point, Tobin a NON force senstive was able to break free of "Almight Nihlius" with simple logic. Nice job at helping me prove my point.
Its rather irrelevant even if it did.
Great, so were the Exile's, its because of the wounding ability, which allows the wounded force user to create bonds with others very quickly and exploit them to gain power. Nihlius was doing the same thing, but his weren't as powerful as the Exile's proof of which being anyone with a modertae form of will power can resist him.
All the Sith display the power in-game and since your using Nihlius display of force lightning which did not happen in a cutscene, but in gameplay means I can do the same.
Um, where, I'll take a general converation topic with her and the Exile that is paraphased.? I don't remeber her saying that, I remeber her talking about Nihlius's drain and how great it is but a regualr force drain...no. Also I love how you use Kreia as a source then dismiss her when I do. Nice Job Nebaris.
And anyways the Force Storm proves that wrong.
Yes, it is that is essentially what your saying.
To the Exile abourd the Ebon Hawk, with enough influence with her start asking about Nihlius and Sion.
Great so does(aside from the transfer of consicouness) every other Sith in the KOTOR era, having those base powers sets his knowledge apart from the rest how?
Considering two of those powers can be formed with no real knoweldge of how your doing it, TK is a basic use of the force and we've seen multiple people use Force Lightning without Sith teaching, Quinlan Vos to name only one.
Double Standards.
And...first you'd have to prove Nihlius even trained them (the fact that Visas DOESN'T know this power, his one and only apprentice proves he probably didn't) and that they weren't simply Revans left over assassins. Then you'd have to prove Nihlius even gave a shit about the stupid force power.
Wow, someone has no clue what there talking about, Revan found Malachor either before or during the Mando Wars, at that time he found the "Planet Sized Training Ground" however, during the Battle of Malachor V, the Mass Shadow Generator is unleashed and literally destroyed the planets landscape to the misshapen mess that we see in KOTOR 2, thats rattled with electromagnetic storms, sudden gravity changes and totally distorted landscape. The only visible remains of the once "Planet Sized Library" is one small Academy: Trayus Academy.
Further proof that the huge source of information was destroyed is the fact that these cities were underground, thus when the MSG went off the gravity influx destroyed them.
So force camouflage = all the knowledge on Malachor?
Such a retard...
Wrong.
So "His knowledge is so great he knew the drain." Thats an utterly stupid statement, your taking the very area he specialized in "Hunger" as something that would be relatively unattainable knowledge.
I've already shown this to be BS. This combined with the fact that at the time of his death Nihlius was no longer a person but a being dominated by his hunger which had a will of its own. Now take that fact and consider that since the "Hunger" controls him it probably doesn't want to go away/stop feeding. Thus the Dark Side part of himself the "Hunger" imparts itself on the mask to sustain the addiction and feed.
I HIGHLY doubt Nihlius someone so actively dominated by the "Hunger" who has been so distorted by the dark side he can't even speak anymore, would want to continue his existence. But the hunger would.
It does exist and it proves how you have no clue what your talking about.
The topic is under power the Exile says:
"With that type of power, why hasn't he taken over the Republic?"
Kreia responds with:
"Power? You think what he displays is power?"
She then goes on about how its not really power since he is dominated by the hunger, and how he cares nothing for the Sith teaching or the Jedi and they are only "food" to him, how he once used to be a man ect ect.
She says:
"When Nihlius has destroyed the Jedi, he will turn on the Sith till theres nothing left in the galaxy." (Paraphrased)
I never said he was, but to simply assume his knowledge base was some how phenomenal simply because he possibly knows some random power is completely ridicules. Compounded with the evidence I've provided it safe to assume he didn't give a shit about the Sith, the Jeid, or any form of Sith teaching and philosophy.
So...
Genius, I NEVER said he DIDN'T know the power, I did however say that to assume he knows ALOT is stupid, THAT begs for proof and providing two powers that he may have known doesn't cut it.
Mar 11th, 2007 08:15 PM
