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All you asked for was scans of DS destroying a galaxy, well he pretty much destroyed a universe there. No pleasing some people.


Since you ignored my above post.

"Darkseid is torn violently out of the continuum

His sudden absence creates a catastrophic temporal shock-wave

Expanding, it rips both forward and backward through history"


Darkseid didn't do anything, the destruction was a side effect of his absence similar to the way Abraxas is the side effect of Galactus absence. This feat equals irrelevant to the context of the discussion.

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since you ignored MINE odin makes galaxies he can probably destroy them darkseid>odin thus he can do whatever he can but better.........thanks

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There is no proof that Darkseid equals Odin, much less is his superior.

Why do people take that road since it has no foundation?


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There is no proof that Darkseid equals Odin, much less is his superior.

Why do people take that road since it has no foundation?


Read this information from Wiki regarding Highfather:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highfather

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Highfather was in reality Izaya, sometimes known as Izaya the Inheritor. The name is a phonetical version of the old testament prophet Isaiah. Highfather thematically resembles the Greek god Zeus and the Norse god Odin (who was known as the high-father).

Now look at this scan of Darkseid and Highfather on a stalemate.


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Don't tell me that there is NO foundation. It's as clear as water.


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Odin has never been as mishandled as Darkseid has.

His highs were more consistent, and frankly most dwarf his.

Not to mention Odin is clearly above top tiers, whereas Darkseid isn't out of reach to the pinnacle.


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and what feats does odin have that drawf darkseid?

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Not being beaten up by a top tier to begin with?

Three times no less?


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Not being beaten up by a top tier to begin with?

Three times no less?


Thats not a feat. Thats called a cop out.


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and what feats does odin have that drawf darkseid?


Fighting on every single plane of existence simultaneously.

Causing shock-waves throughout the multi-verse.

Destroying multiple galaxies in a single confrontation.

Destroying planets like ant hills, and reigniting suns as a side effect of battle.

Transversing the entirety of the universe in mere moments.

etc.

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Channeling the OE via Alexander Luthor's eyes, Darkseid nearly kills the Anti-Monitor.

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?...3jpgorig4wf.jpg

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Proof, that when DS was removed from the time line and the universe collapsed, it was because of his power.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?...gion29079yu.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?...gion29087ta.jpg

The art sucks, but bear with me. The lords of Order and the lords of Chaos fear Darkseid.
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream4bo.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream19mc.jpg


The Anti Monitor feat was done through tech.


Stop misrepresenting scans. Those scans prove exactly what I stated earlier. If Darkseid is removed from the DC time line, the universe will collapse upon itself. This does not mean DS has the power to destroy the universe.


When did "fear" count as a feat?

DS has never been shown capable of destroying a Galaxy.

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The art sucks, but bear with me. The lords of Order and the lords of Chaos fear Darkseid.
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream4bo.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream19mc.jpg
I never really liked the whole (Chaos and Order fear Darksied ) thing. It made me lose respect fore DC's chaos and order rather than respect Darkseid. Marvels order and chaos were willing to jump into a confrontation with the IG without fear yet in DC they fear a skyfather. sad


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Ummmm, maybe it's cause he's more powerful than a skyfather? What the f**k? The lords are each around Skyfather level.

Odin's galaxy busting feat was retconned.

Btw, where do you think all the power for the weapons, gizmos, war machines, and the firepits on Apokolips come from? That's Darkseid's power running all of his weapons. HE powers the firepits by himself.


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Anyways Omega, like Galactus would win 10/10


You do know that in The Hunger Galactus himself recognize the power of Darkseid, right?

Anywhoo...I never seen Highfather destroy a galaxy. He's practically identical to Odin. So does that mean Highfather is not as powerful as Odin because he hasn't destroy a galaxy?

As you saw in the scan Darkseid stalemates Highfather.


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Ummmm, maybe it's cause he's more powerful than a skyfather? What the f**k? The lords are each around Skyfather level.

Odin's galaxy busting feat was retconned.

Btw, where do you think all the power for the weapons, gizmos, war machines, and the firepits on Apokolips come from? That's Darkseid's power running all of his weapons. HE powers the firepits by himself.
The concepts are above skyfather. What the f**k? Maybe not in DC. And frankly a Skyfather is way down the food chain to the IG. If the lords are scared of Darkseid then its really because their weak.


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Ummmm, maybe it's cause he's more powerful than a skyfather? What the f**k? The lords are each around Skyfather level.

Odin's galaxy busting feat was retconned.

Btw, where do you think all the power for the weapons, gizmos, war machines, and the firepits on Apokolips come from? That's Darkseid's power running all of his weapons. HE powers the firepits by himself.


Yet he has no feats that support your claims. Beyond Skyfather is Abstract, and DS feats pale in comparison to Odin's as is.

No it wasn't. Odin was destroying multiple galaxies, and fighting on every plain of existence in 96 my friend. There have been no retcons.

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You do know that in The Hunger Galactus himself recognize the power of Darkseid, right?

Anywhoo...I never seen Highfather destroy a galaxy. He's practically identical to Odin. So does that mean Highfather is not as powerful as Odin because he hasn't destroy a galaxy?

As you saw in the scan Darkseid stalemates Highfather.


You also no in hunger Galactus was nearly killed by Thor? Him recognizing DS while hungry is of no significance.

Highfather may be identical to DC Odin in power, However Marvels Odin's feats are superior to them both.

Um yes. If character A can do something Character B is unable to do, than the only logical answer is that character A is more powerful.

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Why do you say the Anti - Monitor feat was accomplished with technology? He used technology to see through Alex Luthor's eyes and to project his OE through them, but there's no evidence that he used technology to somehow increase the power of the OE itself.


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I've never seen Odin actually hurt the LT. But I've seen Darkseid hurt the Spectre with his Omega Effect. Not to mention, I didn't see the marvel-verse start dying because Odin was removed from the timeline. A feat which you are desperately trying to downplay, despite the enormous power attributed to Darkseid by it. Or how about the fact that it took 5 skyfathers to smash the source wall, while it was weakened. A feat that Darkseid accomplished by himself. 5 skyfathers to equal Darkseid. big grin


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Something that I missed...



You do know that in The Hunger Galactus himself recognize the power of Darkseid, right?

Anywhoo...I never seen Highfather destroy a galaxy. He's practically identical to Odin. So does that mean Highfather is not as powerful as Odin because he hasn't destroy a galaxy?

As you saw in the scan Darkseid stalemates Highfather.
Was that before or after Galactus one-shotted him?

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Why do you say the Anti - Monitor feat was accomplished with technology? He used technology to see through Alex Luthor's eyes and to project his OE through them, but there's no evidence that he used technology to somehow increase the power of the OE itself.
The blue OE?


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