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Uhh....sure. Why not.

Doesn't change the fact that the aegis is much more durable.


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If you can consider Cap's shield being destroyed by the Odinforce in a future that never happened, then I'll consider Superman's shattering of WW's bracelets in Superman/Batman's 'Absolute Power' storyline. Angry Superman can shatter WW's bracelets. WWs bracelets are weaker than Cap's shield.


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And that's why the misconception is around; those stupid bios said that it was made out of adamantium, because the author didn't know any better. Adamantium was made trying to duplicate Cap's shield. And as for the Ultimates...it's the Ultimates. no expression
oh ok so lets all call the author cause he made a boo boo about caps shield. i think the authors know more about the info on marvel than you or i do pal.


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oh ok so lets all call the author cause he made a boo boo about caps shield. i think the authors know more about the info on marvel than you or i do pal.
No, no he doesn't being that it's been proven wrong for the last 15-20 years. no expression Good try, though.


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Uhh....sure. Why not.

Doesn't change the fact that the aegis is much more durable.
sure it does


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sure it does
Damn skippy.

Cap's shield >>>>>>>>>>> WW's bracelet's


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Damn skippy.

Cap's shield >>>>>>>>>>> WW's bracelet's


LOL you are an idiot.

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LOL you are an idiot.
Well, that was quite rude, nvr. But if you look at my posts earlier, you'll see my reasoning. Personally, and I know a lot of Cap fans agree with me, Thor using the Odinforce to destroy Cap's shield is garbage. No way is the Odinforce on par with pre-retcon Beyonder's power or Infinity Gauntlet. But we've conceded it without a fight, because honestly, how many times have we even seen the shield broken? 3 times. Ever. So it's hard to ignore it.

Now so many peoples' argument is based on the fact that since Odinforce-level power is all that is necessary to destroy Cap's shield, that WW's bracelets ought to be better since they were forged by god's.

Well, I say garbage. Because Wodnerwoman's bracelets have been destroyed by far weaker than the sum total of the top skyfather's power. I've seen Wonderwoman's bracelet's shatter from Superman punching them. He completely shattered them in 'Absolute Power,' with two punches when Diana was defending herself with them. Now are Superman's punches greater than the Odinforce, the sum total of the highest skyfather in Marvel? Hell no. Wonderwoman's bracelets are not as strong as you'd all like them to be.

And again, because I anticipated that people will argue that I'm not allowed to use that feat because it's a different timeline that never really occurred, I'd like to point out that the destruction of the shield by the Odinforce ALSO occurred in a timeline that never really occurred. And all your arguments would seriously be f'ed if we discounted that.


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what has broken the shield?

odin power, beyonder. amd i missing some?

what has broken the bracelets?

superman? anything else?

i'm not making a judgement. i just want to know if i'm missing anything in either list.


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what has broken the shield?

odin power, beyonder. amd i missing some?

what has broken the bracelets?

superman? anything else?

i'm not making a judgement. i just want to know if i'm missing anything in either list.


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Cap's shield being broken by the Odin force DID happen. The reversal of time doesn't make it somehow non canon. It just means that very few people are aware of what actually happened while Thor possessed the Odin force the first time.


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Well, that was quite rude, nvr. But if you look at my posts earlier, you'll see my reasoning. Personally, and I know a lot of Cap fans agree with me, Thor using the Odinforce to destroy Cap's shield is garbage. No way is the Odinforce on par with pre-retcon Beyonder's power or Infinity Gauntlet. But we've conceded it without a fight, because honestly, how many times have we even seen the shield broken? 3 times. Ever. So it's hard to ignore it.

Now so many peoples' argument is based on the fact that since Odinforce-level power is all that is necessary to destroy Cap's shield, that WW's bracelets ought to be better since they were forged by god's.

Well, I say garbage. Because Wodnerwoman's bracelets have been destroyed by far weaker than the sum total of the top skyfather's power. I've seen Wonderwoman's bracelet's shatter from Superman punching them. He completely shattered them in 'Absolute Power,' with two punches when Diana was defending herself with them. Now are Superman's punches greater than the Odinforce, the sum total of the highest skyfather in Marvel? Hell no. Wonderwoman's bracelets are not as strong as you'd all like them to be.

And again, because I anticipated that people will argue that I'm not allowed to use that feat because it's a different timeline that never really occurred, I'd like to point out that the destruction of the shield by the Odinforce ALSO occurred in a timeline that never really occurred. And all your arguments would seriously be f'ed if we discounted that.

WW's bracelets have never been broken. They have deflected the entire power of the Greek Panetheon Back upon itself. They deflect Magic. matter manip. Caps shield would be spit in two by a powerful magical wielder or matter manipulator.

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WW's bracelets have never been broken. They have deflected the entire power of the Greek Panetheon Back upon itself. They deflect Magic. matter manip. Caps shield would be spit in two by a powerful magical wielder or matter manipulator.


I always kinda wondered what Magneto could do to the shield. We saw what he did to adamantium.


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No, no he doesn't being that it's been proven wrong for the last 15-20 years. no expression Good try, though.
hows it proven wrong ? show some proof for once pal


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hows it proven wrong ? show some proof for once pal
No, you're the one that's wrong so the burden of proof is on you, pal.

Oh, and I'm no where near being your "pal".


PS....look at the other 5-10 posts that say you're wrong. Seeing a pattern there?


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WW's bracelets have never been broken. They have deflected the entire power of the Greek Panetheon Back upon itself. They deflect Magic. matter manip. Caps shield would be spit in two by a powerful magical wielder or matter manipulator.
WW's bracelets have been broken. By two Superman punches in 'Absolute Power.' You must have read it. He goes berserk when Wonderwoman kills Batman and Superman charges Wonderwoman. After knocking her down, he throws two punches which completely shatter her bracelets and then breaks her neck with her own lasso. It's the third storyline in Superman/Batman. Read it again.

Til then: Cap's shield >>>>> WW's bracelets


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I always kinda wondered what Magneto could do to the shield. We saw what he did to adamantium.
Cap's shield is leaps and bounds beyond adamantium. It used to be that Magneto could not affect Cap's shield at all. But I think they changed that now. To be honest, I don't know what happened in their last encounter as this one was in the late eighties:

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WW's bracelets have been broken. By two Superman punches in 'Absolute Power.' You must have read it. He goes berserk when Wonderwoman kills Batman and Superman charges Wonderwoman. After knocking her down, he throws two punches which completely shatter her bracelets and then breaks her neck with her own lasso. It's the third storyline in Superman/Batman. Read it again.

Til then: Cap's shield >>>>> WW's bracelets


Um you do realize that that story is non Cannon? We dont know what those bracelets where made of. YOu know all of the amazons have indestructible bracelets. But Her bracelets are forged from zues's own shield, given to him by his wet nurse. Please don't use non cannon material to make a case. k, thanks.

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Um you do realize that that story is non Cannon? We dont know what those bracelets where made of. YOu know all of the amazons have indestructible bracelets. But Her bracelets are forged from zues's own shield, given to him by his wet nurse. Please don't use non cannon material to make a case. k, thanks.
Non-canon? It happened in a timeline that no longer exists because it reversed itself. But we know that Superman and Batman remember the events and that events during that time lasted into continuity especially since that is where Superman made his promise to Darkseid to release him from the Source Wall. Wonderwoman had her same powers and her same equipment. She had her trademark bracelets and her lasso. Hell, she even deflected bullets with her bracelets in her opening shots. So don't tell me to assume that her bracelets were all of a sudden different. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest they were different. Same thing with Cap's shield. I could tell you that we have no way of knowing that was really Cap's shield. But like you, I'd be pulling that out of my a$$.

These are the same exact circumstances where Cap's shield was destroyed by the Odinforce. In a timeline, that never happened. Even moreso, they were in a future that never happened.

You know better than to take double standards nvr. Either both are canon or non-canon. You lose either way.


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No, you're the one that's wrong so the burden of proof is on you, pal.

Oh, and I'm no where near being your "pal".


PS....look at the other 5-10 posts that say you're wrong. Seeing a pattern there?
yah my bad i take that pal back. PS still theres no evidence saying thats its not made of adamantium. on his bio it says. look it up if you know how to read.


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