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janus77
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cool, is there a scan in the respect thread?

I believe so.

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Superman doesn't care....he just wants the money from all his comic book sales.

Superman doesn't get paid. wink

Unfortunately, he's merely a slave to AOL Time Warner.

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Still not a lifting feat. Hulk has no lifting feats...or pure brute strength feats that compare to Superman's.

Oh he does. Like seperating spheres of charged antimatter (while not being anhillated, mind you) with near infinite inertia. If that counts, in your book.

Sending shockwaves throughout the multiverse isn't brute strength? If not, what is, in your criteria?

What are some of Superman's lifting feats? Say, does Mageddon count as a lifting feat?

Jul 24th, 2007 04:21 PM

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I believe so. Superman doesn't get paid.

Unfortunately, he's merely a slave to AOL Time Warner.

Don't let Superman fool ya, he's taking kickbacks from somewhere/somenone

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Don't let Superman fool ya, he's taking kickbacks from somewhere/somenone

I would be surprised. confused

He told me that he was just in it for the good of Metropolis, and the rest of humanity.

I think you're just defaming his character.

Jul 24th, 2007 04:24 PM

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Only using power and a boxing match.

So if this means for the both of them..no speed, no healing, no durability, no clapping, no heat vision, no super breathe, no nothing, etc

Whomever got the first punch off would win.

50/50 split

Or, it WOULD be a 50/50 split if Superman weren't clearly the more skilled.

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Or, it WOULD be a 50/50 split if Superman weren't clearly the more skilled.

But saying that Superman is more skilled than World War Hulk is speculation, Soljer. Have you read the World War Hulk series?

I read Superman and I rarely see him rely on skill, moreso on his speed.

Jul 24th, 2007 04:26 PM

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Oh he does. Like seperating charged spheres of charged antimatter with near infinite inertia.

Sending shockwaves throughout the multiverse isn't brute strength? If not, what is, in your criteria?

What are some of Superman's lifting feats? Say, does Mageddon count as a lifting feat?

Turning something requires brutes strength. Superman is actually forcing an object to do what he wills. Turning a wheel like that would be equal in effort to lifting something, imo.

As far as a thunderclap is concerned. A universal thunderclap is silly....because it would even destroy what Hulk is standing on. Also, it would put him above beings like Eternity, Lord Chaos, or Master Order...who are not multiversal beings.

Also, if his thunderclap was that powerful...it would be stupid for Hulk himself to survive it...since his own durability is not powerful enough for him to survive inside the sun.

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I would be surprised.

He told me that he was just in it for the good of Metropolis, and the rest of humanity.

I think you're just defaming his character.

I hear President Bush say the same things about the U.S...and the world in general

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But saying that Superman is more skilled than World War Hulk is speculation, Soljer. Have you read the World War Hulk series?

I read Superman and I rarely see him rely on skill, moreso on his speed.

Yes. I have.

And while the Hulk is much more strategic than he once was, his martial skill is nothing to be envied. Superman, on the other hand, has feats that would put real world martial artists to shame.

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Turning something requires brutes strength. Superman is actually forcing an object to do what he wills. Turning a wheel like that would be equal in effort to lifting something, imo.

As far as a thunderclap is concerned. A universal thunderclap is silly....because it would even destroy what Hulk is standing on. Also, it would put him above beings like Eternity, Lord Chaos, or Master Order...who are not multiversal beings.

Also, if his thunderclap was that powerful...it would be stupid for Hulk himself to survive it...since his own durability is not powerful enough for him to survive inside the sun.

He didn't thunderclap a universe. Rather, the sonic shockwave from his thunderclap redirected a universe-destroying blast.

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Turning something requires brutes strength. Superman is actually forcing an object to do what he wills. Turning a wheel like that would be equal in effort to lifting something, imo.

As far as a thunderclap is concerned. A universal thunderclap is silly....because it would even destroy what Hulk is standing on. Also, it would put him above beings like Eternity, Lord Chaos, or Master Order...who are not multiversal beings.

Also, if his thunderclap was that powerful...it would be stupid for Hulk himself to survive it...since his own durability is not powerful enough for him to survive inside the sun.

your assumptions are all non-sequiturs, that is they do not follow from the statements leading upto them.

also, Hulk's durability, healing, regeneration all increase alongside his strength.

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Turning something requires brutes strength. Superman is actually forcing an object to do what he wills. Turning a wheel like that would be equal in effort to lifting something, imo.

As far as a thunderclap is concerned. A universal thunderclap is silly....because it would even destroy what Hulk is standing on. Also, it would put him above beings like Eternity, Lord Chaos, or Master Order...who are not multiversal beings.

Also, if his thunderclap was that powerful...it would be stupid for Hulk himself to survive it...since his own durability is not powerful enough for him to survive inside the sun.

Seperating the spheres of the antimatter bomb required brute strength, no?

If you noticed, Hulk didn't thunderclap the universe out of existence. He simply destroyed everything therin.

Hulk's durability varies. He once survived a beam from a Celestial. That same beam reduced Namor, Dr. Strange, and The Silver Surfer (who can survive inside of the sun) into skeletons.

I believe Dr. Strange teleported Hulk out of the destroyed universe after he had destroyed it, so Hulk was okay.

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He didn't thunderclap a universe. Rather, the sonic shockwave from his thunderclap redirected a universe-destroying blast.

still doesn't make sense...lol. Since a single universe is nigh-infinite...what good would deflecting it do...it would still destroy the universe. Where did Hulk redirect it to?

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He didn't thunderclap a universe. Rather, the sonic shockwave from his thunderclap redirected a universe-destroying blast.

That is exactly what happened.

It is unclear whether or not the blast was powerful enough to destroy Hulk when The Nightcrawler released it, but it is likely that it was.

Talk about strength and durability. wink

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still doesn't make sense...lol. Since a single universe is nigh-infinite...what good would deflecting it do...it would still destroy the universe. Where did Hulk redirect it to?

Away from himself, in every direction.

A universe isn't nigh infinite (there really isn't any such thing as 'nigh infinite', or infinity itself or that matter,) but finite.

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Yes. I have.

And while the Hulk is much more strategic than he once was, his martial skill is nothing to be envied. Superman, on the other hand, has feats that would put real world martial artists to shame.

That's because he has super speed, and he can freakin fly. If I had superspeed, or could fly I would put most martial artists to shame as well.

Are there any particular fights that you can think of? I usually read fights wherin Superman just punches.

Jul 24th, 2007 04:46 PM

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Seperating the spheres of the antimatter bomb required brute strength, no?

Yes but no where near as much as you think. The science there was appalling. Anti matter and matter aren't attracted to each other. Only individual pair of particles and anti particles are. All we know is the force was enough to send a metal ball into space. That's well below Superman.

Why is no one brought up WW hulks durability? The thing was strong enough to bloody his nose. He's way below Supes in that department.

Also where Hulk's supposed skill in the story? He's being plowing through heroes much weaker than himself. Except Blackbolt which happened off panel.

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Just because your respectful doesn't man your not an idiot.

If you have read Superman like I have you know his strength is MUCH more than Hulk ever could be.

So until you show me something you will be an idiot. End of.

Stop with the name calling....it's not called for.

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Stop with the name calling....it's not called for.

Don't worry about that guy.

I don't like making assumptions, but if it's that important to him for people to recognize Superman's supremacy, he's probably going through some real life problems or lacking something's seriously somewhere else in his life, and maybe Superman is all he has left.

Believe me, he needs his idealized Superman a lot more than we need to make a debate point.

The only problem is, this isn't the place for him to air his frustrations.

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