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Nothing it's irrevelvant, think what you want about that.
Now I just "think" the movie is shit. You were claiming I declared the movie was truly shit before, what happened? Maybe you stop assuming things, good.
Wow you can claim just the opposite of what I said, yet... yours makes scense. Hahaha you tumble on yourself yet again. YOU said what I did before... I merely knew you'd eventually point out how "wrong" I was to say claim the opposite of what you did, and only shoot yourself in the foot.
Debate? You silly bastard... I merely voiced my opinion. You're the idiot still trying to "debate".
bwhahahahahahaha..... I answer you with your own feeble words, that come back to bite you in your ass:
Do I have to paste where you said that IF (and I don't) I thought 300 WAS factually shit, then I was an idiot? Must I do it Again?
You miss my point, again... no surprise and I seriously don't think you even WANT to try to talk about it... so I won't waste my time.
Me calling 300 shit implies that I claim to have "advanced" taste? You put words in my mouth AGAIN. Please stop, silly boy.
I've seen it done better, way better.
It proves how many people like it, which is obvious... you won't deny that will you?
Well the same can be said for you poor "debating " skills. You're the tandrum throwing child here, you even cry so much that you end up reporting people.... and I am the cry baby... you're a joke.
That's all your opinion.... so... what should I say....nice?
Oh yes... a paragraph b*tching about name calling... yet you called me "cretin", "peasant" and all kinds of other names but you don't see me complaining because I KNOW I call you names too... SFW?
Hahahaha I suppose you'll claim you never said what I quoted, or say it was taken "out of context" that your usual defense, yes?
If you accepted what I thought about 300, you wouldn't have posted in the first place you parasite. If you're not trying to change my view what the hell are you doing still posting and addressing me?
Then this should be the end of this discussion.
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The movie itself was kinda cool. Nothing all that spectacular, imo. Just a fun mindless action movie.
Historical innaccuracies - Who cares? No movie is very accurate outside of maybe some documentaries. Film is a medium for entertainment, changes are always made to historical movies to make them more entertaining.
We're discussing rating/overrating/underrating, I used a film as an example. How was it irrelevant? You just don't want to peacefully discuss it, clearly, and that's fine, just admit it at least.
Did I not quote you?
I'm not contradicting myself because I'm not saying "If you didn't think it was factually good, you're an idiot.". The idiocy in your claim is that there's any fact at all, there isn't, you claimed there was and then claimed you never said it. Don't dodge the fact that you said it, denied it, and then I proved it.
Discussion board; welcome.
Do you have anything constructive in your post...at all? Or is it just insecure retorts?
Do it, because you're not getting the context. If you think it's factually shit, you are an idiot, not because I like it, but because there's NO fact. It's not factually good or bad, it's subjective. The idiocy, as I explained, is in the suggestion that there is any fact involved AT ALL.
I will probably have to explain that a third time, OR you'll take the cheap route and say "You didn't mean that.", in hopes of escaping admission of guilt, again.
But you will, because I still have a lot of this post to reply to, and once again I've reduced you to nothing relevant at all, only for you to claim I'm not worth it. Silly, played out dramatics. I was worth it a while ago.
No, the way you have acted implies it, 300 needn't be involved.
So have I, what's your point?
A) It doesn't, it proves how many people paid to see the movie. Not how many people paid to see it and then liked it.
B) It doesn't prove what we were originally discussing. You claimed that lots of people were sad to see the movie end, as if we're all clammy fanboys, then when I asked you to prove it (As you said, don't say what you can't prove.), you asked me if I saw how much it made, as if that would prove anything regarding sadness.
C) Think before you get yourself into these twisted situations.
How much of your post has been relevant to our discussion? Come to think of it, how much of anything you've said has been straight forward, civil debating without throwing insults? None. I piss you off and you can't stand me, that's no excuse to be a baby.
Do you have a counter debate? Or do you just come onto this site to troll, moan and then moan even more when people reply to you? You do realise this is a debate board, right?
I can count on one and a half hands how many times I've called you PASSIVE names such as "Peasant.". Need I go back and pull up all the times you've included blunt, needless insults thrown directly at me in your posts? Don't act as if we're equal in that area.
Read it back. I previously pushed the debate of it all being opinion and therefore NOTHING being factual, I assumed you could put two and two together and realise that I was speaking for my preferences too.
I suppose you'll not admit that you said something, denied it, then got proven wrong? Exactly. You misunderstood me cos, honestly, you are rather simple. I don't mean that as an insult, but you come here and do nothing but moan to those who out-class your posts.
Discussing, it's a discussion board. You apparantly hate such things, so why are you even here?
I accepted you hate or dislike the movie the second I saw your post, that doesn't eradicate curiousity as to why.
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It's this simple; You claim that IF I claimed 300 WAS "factually" shit,I am an idiot. All you have is me pointing out to you that IF you thought 300 was NOT "factually" shit then you're an idiot too. Get it? Did it process that time, you must have the brain of a 5 year old. This all could have been avoided if you just didn’t assume I was saying "I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT 300 IS SHIT!", when all I alreally did was call it "shit" which is my opinion.
As for you opinions of Fight Club, go post on a Fight Club thread, because you brought that irrelevant sh*t up. As for you being a cry baby tw*t, and I do mean tw*t, stop crying so much it's bad for your e-soul. Either that or go report me again you sorry excuse for self proclaimed intellectual.
Edit: I am sure you will claim I ignored your other points. Well of course I did, for the sake of moving things on I decided to get to the bones of this little playtime session. When what I just posted sinks in, I will discuss your Fight Club BS.
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No, it doesn't work that way because YOU made the claim of factuality first. Here's what YOU said: "Now if you think it’s NOT 'factually' shit, you’re an idiot. So stop wasting my time, dolt.".
To which I replied: "If you think 300 is factually shit, you're an idiot.". Not because it's factually good, because it isn't, but because you believed there was any fact in there at all. Do I need to run that by you again for you to admit that you said something incorrect and admit it?
It's your opinion that it's shit as it's my opinion that it's good, so you said the following, why?
"Now if you think it’s NOT 'factually' shit, you’re an idiot. So stop wasting my time, dolt.".
Why say that if you know there is no fact involved in whether it's good or shit? Simple, civil question. It/They won't get answered because you never answer questions that catch you out, but if you ignore it or answer it, you'll prove my point.
You told me that if I thought it WASN'T FACTUALLY SHIT, I would be an idiot. It's not factually shit, is it? It's your opinion. So first of all you need to accept you said something incorrect, that would be the honourable thing to do. I said the opposite.
Oh, such needless tantrums. You only make yourself look worse, man.
It's an "Epic Scene" thread, not "No Fight Club.". Go to The Godfather thread if you wanna discuss that movie, then.
Sinks in? Or do you mean; "When you admit things that aren't true, but I would prefer."? (Note the question mark.). You need to realise you said something incorrect and wrap your head around the following;
Once more, here's what YOU said; "Now if you think it’s NOT 'factually' shit, you’re an idiot. So stop wasting my time, dolt.".
Once again, to which I replied: "If you think 300 is factually shit, you're an idiot.". Not because it's factually good, because it isn't, but because you believed there was any fact in there at all. Do I need to run that by you again for you to admit that you said something incorrect and admit it?
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Now I know what a retard you are. You posted "If you think 300 is factually shit, you're an idiot." at 5:52 pm (my time) YESTERDAY. I posted ""Now if you think it’s NOT 'factually' shit, you’re an idiot. So stop wasting my time, dolt." at 7:23 AM TODAY. You are a pathetic f*cking liar I am not going to waste my time with lying scum bent on denying FACTS to look right.
Retard? Scum? Pathetic? Liar? Idiot? Dolt? When have I ever said such things to you? Needless tantrums that serve only to discredit anything you have to say. Tsk, tsk, you fail me.
You said "No...300 was shit." matter of factly as plainly seen by everyone, I said "IF you hold the belief that it's factually shit, you're an idiot.", because you would be. It's your opinion, right? Right. Then WHY (Answer it this time.) did you say that I would be considered an idiot if I thought it WASN'T factually shit? Fact is not open to discussion, it is or it isn't a fact.
That's the idiocy of your claim, you were making factly claims, I countered by asking that if this was your stance, you'd be wrong, and you said the opposite, despite it being impossible, only to deny that you said it and agree that it's all opinion.
Calm yourself down, you poor, confused soul. You'll give yourself a headache. It's rather funny how you are so worked up, yet pretty soon you'll say "You aren't worth my time. You can't debate so I'm leaving.".
EDIT: And seeing as you can't keep this to one thread (Flattering for someone not worth your time.), I'll reply here...
Whoa, I really got to you. I've never got under anyone's skin and bothered them as much as I apparantly bother you. Two threads going, still wrong, and making false accusations. The time you spend dissing me in two threads, only to later say I'm not worth it, could be spent answering my civil questions. Oh well.
So I'll ask again and if you wish to end this, you'll answer it, as it would clear everything up rather than "You said, I said.", here; if you're aware that there is no fact in this discussion regarding 300, which is what ALL this is about, why did you say "If you think it's NOT factually shit, you're an idiot."? I said what I said because there's no fact involved, and you were addressing things matter-of-factly, I wasn't suggesting it's factually good, so why say the opposite if you know it's not true?
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Well you're a liar now, AC. Nobody likes to "debate" with liar and yes I think it's rather low of you to claim what you did knowing it was false. But I said what I did in order to show you that you cannot indefinitely say that 300 wasn’t shit, by your standards as well. Thus stop b*tching about me thinking 300 is "shit", because It can be not proven to be "factually" "shit" nor "great". You just were making "factly claims" in the God of War thread, were you not? You did the same thing I did, you called something "shit", I am tired of your double standard you sad, sick and mentally challenged dolt.
Hahahah you claim to have gotten " really gotten under my skin", yeah you did a bit. But I won't report you like your cry-baby ass did to me, so don't even act like you're so "meh" and indifferent about me, or you wouldn't be posting either. Dolt.
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I would never claim that I CAN say 300 isn't shit definitely, or factually, because my whole point, if you had read, was that there is no fact in this. Hence why my reply to your "300 is shit *No back up.*", matter-of-factly claims was "If you think it's factually shit, you're an idiot.". That doesn't mean to say I believe it's factually good, or factually not shit, or factually anything. You were the one who jumped to said conclusion.
If I call something "shit", it pertains to my personal opinion. You are the one deciding that I am saying it as if I believe it to be fact, I'm not. It's my personal opinion that the game is shit, it's my personal opinion that 300 is good, which is why I moved to stop you making factly claims about it being shit.
If all you'd done is ask what I meant, or better yet, had the ability to understand it without asking, you'd know that I was suggesting exactly what you say now; there is no fact, it's all subjective regarding taste. As for you assuming (And this coming from the man who says not to make assumptions.) that everything I pass judgement on is done so with the belief that it's a fact, you're being stupid. That's not the case.
Also, get new material. Dolt etc is getting a bit old, or...OR, why not just stop acting like a kid and drop the insults. Always an option.
Don't flatter yourself into thinking that because I grace you with replies, I am as interested and focused on you as you are on me, my focus remains on getting you to answer certain questions so your debate becomes clear to be even more of a shambles. Yours is, and always is, focused on me, not my debate. When I left this thread, I forgot about you, I'm not the one following you around, commenting on YOUR pictures, continuing debates in other threads, turning threads into one-sided personal barrages of textual abuse because I can't debate.
The difference is, I get under your skin because I can best you in every debate we have. It's not a matter of me being good, it's a matter of you not being able to handle anybody replying to you. I reported you because, as proven, you follow me around threads throwing out insults when your debate is beaten, then claim I'm not worth it and refuse to discuss civilly. Furthermore, you still haven't answered my question, and you won't for some reason, but one more shot, civilly I am asking you:
"Now if you think it’s NOT 'factually' shit, you’re an idiot. So stop wasting my time, dolt.".
Why say that if you know there is no fact involved in whether it's good or shit? Simple, civil question.
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I've already answered that question, dolt. Maybe you should READ my previous post. Hahahaha I find it sad that you think you "bested" me while you sit there like a weasel and act like your lies do not totally discredit you. You can’t pull that “I won, you can’t handle me”shit over me. Try that with othe KMC members, I see you for what you really are, some guy who is slightly more intelligent that most the people around KMC, so you show up here “pwn” and “school” people so you feel like the little bright star. No doubt, in the real world you’re nothing but a uneducated intellectual guppy. So claim victory all you want here, it means nothing especially when you’re a desperate liar.
No, you followed me in here, remember? Forgive me for stumbling upon your picture in pictures thread, I've been posting there a lot, so don't get panty wet just because I told you about your resemblance to Mason.
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B) Oh yes, the part about "I said what I did to show that 300 cannot be indefinitely shit.". Fair enough, I missed that at first, you answered my question, thank you. It still doesn't remove the fact that it's a ridiculous answer, as ridiculous as I expected. You said something to counter something I didn't mean or believe in the first place, and then have the audacity to imply I can't read or that I'm intellectually disinclined.
You have the nerve to talk about me being discredited when I have nothing to hide, weasel out of or otherwise, and all you've done is sit there acting like a fool, throwing abuse and being very, sadly insecure? Odd, odd.
I don't need to "pull" anything over you, you know what the score is, which is why you attach yourself to me and my posts, and have done since the moment you joined this site. We both know the deal, so I don't need to "pull" anything. The fact that you are replying in the way you are is a victory in itself, if I ever wanted one in the first place. You lose your cool all the time because you know I see through you.
You seem hurt, really hurt.
The last thing I would do on this site is seek you out, believe me. I made the mistake of thinking you were just in bad moods all those other times you acted stupid.
I specifically told you I didn't mind, all in good fun, just seemed rather odd that you couldn't post that without firing off a disparaging insult first. You have a clear obsession.
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Ok ok… tell yourself whatever, just stop TRYING to "pwn" and "school" me you just end up look like a more miserable creature that you really are. Look, next time don't go around trying to play KMC hero and this won't happen. Look what you've done, you've proven that your feelings got hurt and foremost that you'd actually degenerate into a liar just to make people look "schooled". As for grudges, I have none, I was minding my own business here until you showed up to "school" me, if you have a problem with me PM me, because last I knew you were peachy.
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I'm not trying to "pwn" or "school" you, it just happens, it's that easy with you, don't flatter yourself.
To quote you; "tell yourself whatever". You couldn't hurt my feelings if I told you how and sent you instructions, I find you very pitiful and feel very sorry for you. I feel KMC would be better for us both if you could just debate properly and not get so depressed and angry everytime someone bests you, because it isn't just me. It happens all the time with others.
Well it's pretty well documented that you're a troll, so I perhaps can't take credit for you having a grudge, but either way, I'm always peachy, just curious.
Apparantly the graphic novel is'nt as over the top as was the film and there was also stuff that happens in the graphic novel which they left out of the film
But who cares i liked it 4/5 from me.
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