Tearing it apart? Like a wild animal? Those are some very serious accusations, Janus. It leads me to a conclusion and a question. The conclusion is that you've obviously never encountered a 'wild animal' and the question is: what would you compare your own typical nature of tenacious posts that include jabs and insults to?
I told you that they weren't the same thing in the post above the six-point-reiteration, and you didn't accept it then. I'm sorry that you feel like I was treating you like "some sort of idiot" (even though I've made it explicitly clear to everyone -- even during our big fallout -- that you aren't), but it was a point that had to be addressed. I'm less of an expert on Darth Revan than you are; for all I knew, one of the KotoR-era comics detailed him pwning a Republic fleet with a Sidious-varient Force Storm.
Overkill? It seems like it was just-enough-kill. Belittling? That wasn't my intent, and one would think that if I did intend to belittle you, I wouldn't bother offering the possibility that I could have been wrong. I would have simply went in and attacked.
I went through and addressed your entire argument with ultimately the same point. I personally don't care if someone has to reiterate the basic point they're trying to make; especially if I'm wrong. Typically, it gets the thought across better.
Not a big deal? All right. We won't make it one. But it seems that since your return, you end up blowing up in every argument we get into. If you can't control yourself, perhaps you should just not respond to my arguments.
Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Antartica... i wish
I would say, the Gungans would win.
reason: Jar Jar would pick up of their grenades and attempt to throw it, and screw up and accidentally injure himself, after doing so Revan would laugh so har that he has a heart attack.
realistically: the Battle would probably be set up like it was in episode I with one change, instead of the droids you have revan. as the Battle starts revan sneezes and accidentally uses force storm on all of the gungans incinerating them.
Well well, The Anomaly (aka "Who needs strategy in War? We can always choose which pieces of soil to blow up or which armies to attack via the lottery system or crazy 8's, nevermind which side said territory is occupied by or whose army it is) is once again making extremely stupid comments. To this, I can only say:
Meesa c dumbazz postar woo don't no what da hel he iz talkink about.
But anyway, onto the battle: The Gungan army in Episode I was not expertly led, and they faced a foe that, while not exactly poor (OOM-9 was no Grigory Krulik, let's just say that), but he was hampered by lack of initiative and free will, which would prevent him from being less effective.
Does anyone think that Revan would lack those?
Also, the Trade Federation's Army literally tore the Gungan Grand Army apart with the ferocity of a wildcat in spite of the fact that they were droids (and rather inferior quality droids overall at that), whereas Revan would command a battle-hardened, well-trained, and well-equipped force more than a little bit versed in war and battle.
I would have to say Revan takes this. He may have difficulty breaching the shields if they DO kill organics, but once he does, the game is up, and the Gungans are finished.
Where did Anomaly say this? In regards to the Empire vs. Revan? If so, he's right. There comes a point when a group is too well armed and too powerful, that even the most brilliant tactics won't help. That's what fighting the Empire would be like. Except they field tactitions who are even Revan's superior.
Yes Gideon, I KNOW THAT. There is usually a point in time that, like you said, even the best can only die. See Napoleon VS All of Europe in 1813-1814. That fact I would not be stupid about, as eventually sheer numbers will eventually win out. However, where that line to the abyss is, nobody has ever known. And god knows many a general and many an army has felt the stinging impact of reality and defeat after assuming themselves too damned numerous to be broken. See the Austro-Russians at Austerlitz, the Chinese in Korea (both 1894 and 1954), the Umayyands at Constantinople, and several others I can think of with time.
Do I believe that Revan could win in that particular Campaign? No, due to numbers, superior technology in the defenders, and the indisputably good Thrawn (I have no idea which of them, if it ever has been, is the superior to the other, Zahn's boast nonwithstanding, but (even though I am supposidly a "Revan Fanboy") I admit that Thrawn WILL be a VERY big problem).
However, if you ever even READ The Anomaly's post, it sounds like a general brushing-aside of strategy and tactics in generally, saying that numbers and technology are really the only factors that decide the course of war. This is both stupid and ignorant for more reasons than I can possibly state, but for a start, I would say this one word: "Cannae."
If you wish to respond about that, then Puh-Lease do it in the thread for that debate.
Right now, this is the Gungan Grand Army VS Revan's Sith Army. And to be quite frank, when a military force collapses like the Gungans did to poor-quality troops who lack independence or free will beyond the guys in the giant ring-ship in orbit, than you have problems. Enough said.
Registered: Nov 2007
Location: A long time ago in a galaxy faraway
Revan by himself can slaughter those annoying gungans lmao.
The gungan sheilds are the only advantage the gungans have, and from what I know they can only absorb lasers, but Revan can launch a nuke through it and incinerate the gungans lol, im sure the star forge can create some kind of bomb. If not, like other people have said, Revan's troops can walk through the sheild.
Sep 9th, 2007 10:37 PM
