I like kirby but he might be slightly overrated. Outside of smashbros where according to game mechanics a pichu can beat ganondorf and Bowser is easily defeated by jigglypuff... he is only 8 inches in diameter and doesn't seem to be able to inhale things over a certain size...
Yea, i know what you mean. I've recently just came to my senses about crash's abilities where as before I'll admit I was being too biased (like in my crash vs mario thread). But now I'm being fair and providing good reasons for crash's feats and if i see that someone can defeat crash i'll say so. mario or sonic both defeat crash...but not easily. it would be a good fight
kirby can take hits from diamond cutting lasers and cannons balls 10 times his size (that 20 cm diameter)
what the hell can crash do against that durability??
your also forgetting (or probably didnt know to begin with) that kirby can sacrifice his stolen power to make a clone of the enemy he swallowed..he can do this twice, so while crash has his titan, kirby has two crashes plus himself
Well you are the Pyron expect. I know very little about Dark Stalkers. Not my cup of tea and all I've seen was OVA Pyron which you say is weaker than canon Pyron. Got a video or something showing canon Pyron in action?
He NEEDS an item to become invincible, he NEEDS a titan to control them (which by the way aren't anything special. They are nothing compared to what Robotnik dishes out), he NEEDS a bazooka, and he NEEDS a jet pack to fly. Sonic doesn't NEED anything to run at the speed of sound, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Spin Dash, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Blue Tornado, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Lightspeed Attack, and he doesn't NEED anything to use Sonic Wind.
You see the difference here is that you are giving Crash items, things you find in a level that can only be used for a limited time, like Sonic's Invincibility Box or a Fire Shield. These are not part of the character. Heck Luigi can walk up and find the jet pack and BOOM! he's flying around.
Sonic WTFpwns Mario in a few seconds, Sonic WTFpwns Crash in a few seconds. Sonic is the top dog...hedgehog. Sonic's speed and abilities make him far superior than Mario and Crash. But I am glad to hear that you have learned to use a character's feats and abilities and determine who would win in a match.
yea but no character can just turn invincible on their own without the use of an item/power up. As for the titans...crash automatically whips out the aku aku mask (makin it look like it came out of his pocket which I count as a power that he now possesses...its called mojo, which is the reason crash has tattoos now because his new ability lets him jack titans by using mojo and the aku mask) so that counts as a power except that he would still need the actual titan to be there. And really, these titans have phenomenal powers...especially the bigger ones.
So the powers that crash has that dont involve items/power ups are:
1. the classic tornado spin
2. the classic Belly Flop
3. whipping out aku mask to control titans at will (which perhaps brings up the idea of...if he can control these huge monsters, cant he control anything else...wow this could mean he can actually jack and control mario, sonic, and whoever...but the trick is, he'd have to get them dizzy first. this is a very interesting concept for this battle btw)
4. the new fighting set of moves (punch, kick, spinaroony type of kick, uppercuts) nothing lethal, but atleast he's learned how to fight now.
5. no more 1 hit deaths anymore for crash, he has a health bar now.
Yeah the Auka Auka Mask makes Crash invincible. Expect he needs three and that TNT and Nitro crates still seem to injure him. And Crash actually has to put Auka Auka on the Titan for Crash to control them. Seems to me like it's more Auka Auka's power than Crash's.
Big deal, Sonic has the Blue Tornado which is powerful enough to suck up badniks (robots) and they weigh a lot more than Crash.
Good luck hitting something with a belly flop that is moving at the speed of sound.
Oh so Crash can't fight on his own he needs Auka Auka. Even still Crash wouldn't be able to catch Sonic. Beat this:
Seriously anyone can punch, kick, spin kick, and uppercut. Sonic has fought hand to hand in Sonic Battle and Sonic Fighters where he shows off his melee combat skills.
ok first of all, I didnt say crash can beat sonic. I was only proving to you that crash is not as weak as you think.
The aku aku mask has become a part of crash it seems in the new game. for example You can whip out the aku aku mask at any point in the game to skate on him, which acelerates pretty quick too. Then you got the bubble shield that forms around crash with aku aku's face on the front of it for 5 seconds, and you can keep repeating the block move, which again, crash can do at anytime during the game. So it seems that crash's power is reliant on aku aku, but its his power none the less, or else he wouldnt be able to do it at any point. I mentioned the health bar to let you know that crash doesnt die from one hit anymore. And it also seems that the new developers of crash have dumped the idea of nitro, tnt, and aku aku boxes. So crash's invincibilty is his bubble shield, and this golden mask type of thing that automatically stuns anyone after crash collects it and kicks them. Once again, I mentioned that crash can kick, punch and other fighting combos because you probably didnt know he can do that now. which is also important to know about crash's new abilities.
just because sonic is the speed of sound, doesnt mean he'll run around in the speed of sound in the small area used to battle someone, that would have nothing to do with the fight. So crash would have a chance of doing something to hurt him, but not to defeat him ofcourse. also, they have slowed down sonic for sonic vs mario and for ssbb, which makes sense and also backs up my theory.
Sonic can easily speedblitz him at the start of the battle, and skating on the Aku mask may provide him with some speed, but not enough togo faster than Sonic.And that bubble thing is he gonna instantly activate it at the start of the fight? I doubt it, And the Health Bar is only a game mechanic, this is a real battle, and Crash might only survive a few good hits before he sucumbs to his wounds, also, does the golden mask affect them when they're on the ground? Cuz if it his, Sonic can use his himing attacks to counter it. And didn't ESB also point out that Sonic can use hand to hand combat also?
And who says the fight takes place in an enclosed space? The first post didn't point that out.
And yet you have yet to mention how Crash can counter Sonic. Sonic would WTFpwn Crash in seconds like he did to all the badniks here:
Seriously, Crash gets cubstomped pretty bad. And Mario and Sonic and SSBB are not cannon games because we see that Sonic can easily keep up with the Tornado X while running backwards.
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