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Also, if anyone is interested, this is from the Jim Starlin (creator/writer of "The End: Marvel") interview:
Jim Starlin states ... Thanos: "basically he was God" (first paragraph)
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(towards the bottom)
DB: "How did the Marvel: The End come about? My understanding was that it was to be part of a series of stories,
such as The Hulk: The End,
imaginary stories that would see the last days of the characters."
JS: (Jim) "Well I looked at the idea, which was sort of an imaginary story, and I didn’t really feel like doing that.
So I gave them this plot
and no-one seemed to notice that it didn’t fit in with the rest of them.
And I just went off and did this. They approved itand I went “Ok, this works out well”.
They’d approached me because for years they’d talked about,
you know,
I’d become associated with the killing-off of characters,
Warlock, Marvel and Robin, of course.
They talked about me killing-off the Marvel Universe. It was just sort of a joke
but I guess it was just (Joe) Quesada
who decided
“Hey, offer him this thing and see if he really wants to kill-off the Marvel Universe.”
Even Starlin thought it was a joke when Quesada asked him to destroy all of Marvel,
but evidently it was not,
so Jim did,
and had Thanos re-create the Marvel Universe in order to keep it canon.
You do know who Joe Quesada is, right ? In case you don't, he is the Editor-in-chief at Marvel Comics. What did he just say ? That the Marvel Universe isn't actually reffering to all the Universes from Marvel ?
How do you call this again ? Oh yeah, argument destroyed
And since we're on the subject ..
I'm going to warn you, and only once. If you repost scans of what you've already said and don't adress my arguments directly you will be reported for spamming the thread and not beins usefull to the discussion. Everybody can form their opinion and save it into a document only so that they can repost it later. That doesn't mean he is debating.
And just in case somebody absurdley thinks that he was aware of Death still existing, here he is before Death appears telling Warlock that only the both of them remain ..
It should be pretty obvious that due to the limitations Thanos showed during the story, he wasn't actually the God and anybody who actually says that is grasping at straws.
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sigh. thanos wins this obviously. although eirc called ms.master right on his game. mr.master's arguments have started sounding too much like JIA for my confort. pick and interpret the vague parts i like and leave the rest. concentrate on poetic WORDS and hyperbole when they are directly contradicted a few panels down and say little about actual feats. no1 in any comic book universe has ever been truly omnipotent or omniscient. that is only the writers. thanos was limited to the destruction of only one multiverse and thats it. anything outside it, he didnt know about. death possibly sruvived outside and due to the fact that this isnt silly secret wars and you cant KILL death.
and another thing, irrespective of unwarranted hyperbole and invalid fanboyish interpretations, the same feat has been performed by other before. reed with the ultimate nullifier against abraxas did it, genis with entropy did it, mad jim jaspers cud have done it given that he was sayin gsumthing about multiversal/omniversal power, same with wanda with the chaos wave in house of M.
the only difference is the absence of LT. and LT is also screwed up since h was resisted by dr strange and beaten by beyonder and killed when death survived and again beaten by korvak and powerless against corvak etc.
plus you have wierd paradoxical creatures like the infinites whose single hand of their agent was bigger than eternity itself. and then there is friggin eternity, sumtimes he dies with ease against universal threats like the IG and abraxas while at other times he has multiversal power and multiverse threatening beings like abraxas can come from inside him. marvel writers trie to be tooooo profound and poetic and dont know when to stop.
Again I have asked you for reasons why Spectre wins this thread and you post no proof and left me to post the scans.
Thanos obviously lost his cool when he went into his absorption frenzy. He overlooked a view things and wasnt thinking clearly. (please log in to view the image)
TOAA obviously can have whatever problems that TOAA would choose to have. The old saying could TOAA create a rock heavy enough that he couldnt lift. During coie and feel free to correct me if I am wrong werent their colors and such that were never dreamt of before during this crisis? TOAA could also have known Thanos could sacrifice himself and his powers to save the omniverse.
Again you seem to try to pick apart Thanos here but what about the Spectre? Tell me why you think he wins when obviously the mere though of being god drove him mad. He couldnt handle it with his small mind. He had no feats whatsoever. Respond or accept defeat as the entire thread practically gives this to Thanos and easily.
ALSO IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT STARLIN SAID HE WAS god and wrote the story and it was mentioned he was god. The writer said this and to argue is futile.
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Your blabbering doesn't deserve any kind of attention and unless you actually bring consistent arguments, that are actually worth my time, you will be ignored.
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Did Thanos go beyond and talk to God or a part of him? Thanos w/thotu never did that on panel and of course TOAA not fixing a flaw and needing Thanos to fix it is quite ridiculous, also seeing how the Living Tribunal is suppose to be the supreme power next to TOAA/God he should have been the one that was called on to "fix" the flaw but wasn't, and showing him not to be the one which started Destiny's wheel a wheel alpha and omega spin on, it spins on TOAA/God not LT... If you except the End to be canon TOAA would not be supreme seeing how could he not fix a flaw?? Thanos never went beyond time and everything something The Spectre DID on panel and was shown by the Uni-friend what was like to be The Source/God and could only take it for a few seconds cause he's only a limited being, being shown what was the infinite. Thanos still loses
Thanos wins this in a stomp. Any character above the Spectre (host Corrigan) in power would beat Spectre merged because Spectre couldn't even handle the power and was pretty much catatonic when he was merged. Thus, he'll "unmerge" after a brief instant and then have to fight his opponent with his normal powers.
Or he remains merged and is simply unebeatable. A supreme being wouldn't even have to engage another supreme being in a fight. No matter how much power they threw at each other, they wouldn't hurt each other. Spectre merged could just stand there catatonic and never get hurt. And endless barrage wouldn't change the fact that you can't hurt God.
You do realize that he was closer to true God than Thanos ever was. thanos had a massive power up. The Spectre became EVERYTHING and was touching all that was, will and is. connected to every single everything. Thanos destroyed one reality at a time slowly. absorbing at a steady pace. He never once was everthing. If I were really thinking, I would have said the spectre ***** slaps thanos while he is still in control of it all, and then loses his mind.
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