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The same could be said of your Odin.


There's no direct proof because they have never battled, but I'll bet Odin has a lot more impressive feats than Tyrant does.


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There's no direct proof because they have never battled, but I'll bet Odin has a lot more impressive feats than Tyrant does.
Odin couldnt even phase a Celestial while he was extremely amped. Tyrant was beating on Galactus with no amp. Galactus was well fed and knew their confrontation was coming.


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Huh,Thanos had prep which was explained to you and a weapon. Odin fought on Asgard giving him an advantage against an unprepped Thanos would refused to leave the battlefield when he could have left at any time or yielded but he chose to take on Odin and take everything he threw at him.


What was his prep? He knew of Tyrant's history with Galactus. That's about it. He didn't know anything about how Tyrant fought or how powerful he was. I can look up the entire history of my neighbor before I get ready to fight him, but unless I actually know how he fights or what his strengths and weaknesses are, it doesn't mean anything.

As for the weapon, I have yet to have anyone tell me exactly how much power was in the orb or why Tyrant didn't acknowledge it's power with Thanos', so I don't care about the orb.

Show me any statement where Odin is more powerful in Asgard than out of it.


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What was his prep? He knew of Tyrant's history with Galactus. That's about it. He didn't know anything about how Tyrant fought or how powerful he was. I can look up the entire history of my neighbor before I get ready to fight him, but unless I actually know how he fights or what his strengths and weaknesses are, it doesn't mean anything.

As for the weapon, I have yet to have anyone tell me exactly how much power was in the orb or why Tyrant didn't acknowledge it's power with Thanos', so I don't care about the orb.

Show me any statement where Odin is more powerful in Asgard than out of it.
Its obvious the orb was used as a weapon. Its obvious it wasnt a butterknife.

Thanos prepped himself mentally to attack Tyrant. If your mind is prepared youll do better than just getting jumped in an alley. We are talking about Thanos here who is the prep king.


You really dont believe me that Odin is more powerful in Asgard as opposed to outside of it.


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Odin couldnt even phase a Celestial while he was extremely amped. Tyrant was beating on Galactus with no amp. Galactus was well fed and knew their confrontation was coming.


Tyrant didn't harm Galactus until he used his own tech against him. Has Tyrant ever confronted a Celestial the way Odin has, because Galactus' showings vary greatly.


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Tyrant didn't harm Galactus until he used his own tech against him. Has Tyrant ever confronted a Celestial the way Odin has, because Galactus' showings vary greatly.
Galactus used the tech first. So again I can spin it your way and say that Galactus felt he could only win this time by using the tech which backfired. Galactus tried two attacks that Tyrant used to his advantage.


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Galactus used the tech first. So again I can spin it your way and say that Galactus felt he could only win this time by using the tech which backfired. Galactus tried two attacks that Tyrant used to his advantage.


And that is why we leave it at that, because neither one of us is going to agree on the other's interpretation.


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And that is why we leave it at that, because neither one of us is going to agree on the other's interpretation.
Fine.


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Its obvious the orb was used as a weapon. Its obvious it wasnt a butterknife.

Thanos prepped himself mentally to attack Tyrant. If your mind is prepared youll do better than just getting jumped in an alley. We are talking about Thanos here who is the prep king.


You really dont believe me that Odin is more powerful in Asgard as opposed to outside of it.


I agree with the fact that thanos held an orb of tyrants and if it was used? or was he just determined to get away with it? we cant be sure(unless someone has info i dont) and i have the comic, there was a point where thanos let go of it and it looked like he desperately wanted(needed) it back it......but that is off memory

I also agree that thanos had prep

But i also agree with celestialdemon in that as much as we take from their battles(thanos/tyrant/odin) its not clear how tyrant and odin would fare against each other...I.M.O tyrant is more powerful and odin is more versatile....but i would not use it as definitive proof or try and use it as evidence....you cant prove either one is superior to the other


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I agree with the fact that thanos held an orb of tyrants and if it was used? or was he just determined to get away with it? we cant be sure(unless someone has info i dont) and i have the comic, there was a point where thanos let go of it and it looked like he desperately wanted(needed) it back it......but that is off memory

I also agree that thanos had prep

But i also agree with celestialdemon in that as much as we take from their battles(thanos/tyrant/odin) its not clear how tyrant and odin would fare against each other...I.M.O tyrant is more powerful and odin is more versatile....but i would not use it as definitive proof or try and use it as evidence....you cant prove either one is superior to the other
I believe you can but in the end its all subjective.


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Odin of old seemed to be more powerful than today....has odin ever been offically depowered or did he and the other "traditional" gods become somewhat irrevelant once marvel created..Galactus?....even Thor ..whom you thought would know his dad better than anyone said , that it was only after he got his dads power, that he (odin)was more powerful than he imagined.....kinda hints that maybe odin had more up his sleeve....
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Team 2 wins Molecule Man can beat the skyfathers by himself he is acube being. Odin can hold his own against Tyrant, Odin has more raw power than you think, if Odin wanted too he can summon the life force of Asgard and open a can of whoop a$$ on Tyrant.

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still won't achieve much against Tyrant imo.

all skyfathers together are <<<<< a single Celestial,
normal Galactus = /< a single Celestial,
Tyrant =/< normal Galactus.


they're on another level to the Skyfathers.


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One can argue that Tyrant was only on that level because of Galactus tech, it cannot be proved but its a good interpretation.


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fair enough but, it takes power to take tech off Galactus, to invade it and integrate it in to your person.

galactus has ejected others from his worldship by a mere thought, why could he not separate Tyrant from his tech?

I'm not saying Tyrant should beat a determined Galactus, just that they're close enough that Galactus has to respect him.

this is not the case when you place Odin next to Galactus, imo.


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One can argue that Tyrant was only on that level because of Galactus tech, it cannot be proved but its a good interpretation.
Not at all. Galactus didnt want to fight him earlier because of the collateral damage it could cause. If it were a walk in the park he would have beaten him and taken Morg when they first ran into each other.


Tyrant can hang with Galactus and has proved it.


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It could be that Tyrant knowing that he could not overpower Galactus on his own, but knowing the enemy, predicted that Galan would try to strip him of his power with tech, and thus, Tyrant prepared himself for that eventuality becoming a very adept technopath.

I mean, its still speculation, but given how much time he spent to plan this attack, I would say its likely.


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It could be that Tyrant knowing that he could not overpower Galactus on his own, but knowing the enemy, predicted that Galan would try to strip him of his power with tech, and thus, Tyrant prepared himself for that eventuality becoming a very adept technopath.

I mean, its still speculation, but given how much time he spent to plan this attack, I would say its likely.
Yet another possibility.


But I doubt it.


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Odin couldn't even touch the celestials?

He lopped off an arm :/

If you want to use super shitty writing where Galactus can be PHYSICALLY hurt, then that just further ruins your credibility Quanchi.


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Odin couldn't even touch the celestials?

He lopped off an arm :/

If you want to use super shitty writing where Galactus can be PHYSICALLY hurt, then that just further ruins your credibility Quanchi.
Did it harm a Celestial at all? Did it? Context.

Its canon llagrok so deal with it. You and I dont write this stuff so your opinion carries no weight it happened so its a fact. stick out tongue


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