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namorsubby
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several times. he's an A class 100 tonner. much like herc


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Aquaman wins. When AC was fighting She-Hulk wasn't fighting back as he had his eye on the prize.


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Aquaman wins. When AC was fighting She-Hulk wasn't fighting back as he had his eye on the prize.


True.
She Hulk

DIDN'T a) Beat him
b) KO him
c) Not even phase him or make him bleed

Anyway his skin is much tougher than some steel armor anyway and he wasn't fighting back either. He took the prize and gave DC the win in that fight.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Hook Hand Aquaman ran a little less than Mr. Hydes level of about 50 tons, so I'd say he was roughly in the 40- 45 ton range. With the water hand he runs at about maximum 50 tons - 55 tons, and that's really pushing it as I have trouble believing that he is above the Vision in power.

He most certainly isn't approaching Namor or Colossus; not when She Hulk can physically bully him about, even tearing his armor apart, while telling him that he's plenty strong but not able to play in her league.

Namor would do much better than that if he were to square off with She Hulk and Colossus is listed as being stronger than Namor.


This is wrong on so many accounts.

First of all Orin has supported an 8 store building out of water or beaten Olympian (a character with Hercules strength again out of water)

So She-Hulk made him bleed? KO him? Phase him?

No.She just broke an armor .
Aquaman's skin is tougher than that.
He's taken hits from Wonder Woman before.

So Aquaman being 50 ton is at best laughable.

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Aquaman isn't as strong, and his body armor certainly doesn't approach Colossus', not when Shrapnel could cut him to pieces with a blast. If they slugged it out, and Aquaman chose to stand his ground he would bruise, bleed, and eventually fall.

If Aquaman fought smart, and used his superior speed, managing to get him into water he'd win with ease.


Shrapnel did not cut him though.
We did not see that.
Claiming something that hasn't happened is just wrong.
For all we know Aquaman could be just fine.

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AM has schooled 100 classes before and has took a shot directly from WW without any serious injury...the tin man is outclassed here.


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AM has schooled 100 classes before and has took a shot directly from WW without any serious injury...the tin man is outclassed here.



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this is h2h. aquaman can't trade blows with ptior for too long. if this was a regular match though, i'd say aquaman.


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Well in h2h im not certain of AM's abilites, I know colossus doesn't move very fast in combat so if Aquaman has h2h superspeed then he could easily take it...although so far im fairly certain he doesnt have superspeed in h2h.


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i think he could outmanuever C in battle, but not be really be able to slug it out in the long run.


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Hmm, well if he does have h2h superspeed he would take this...but damn no feat is coming to mind right now.


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Well in h2h im not certain of AM's abilites, I know colossus doesn't move very fast in combat so if Aquaman has h2h superspeed then he could easily take it...although so far im fairly certain he doesnt have superspeed in h2h.


He doesn't have Flash superspeed.
But he can blitz someone like a GL (Powering) or Titus or The Eel.
And he can outrun an enraged angel (while jumping from roof to roof)
He is certainly waaaay faster than a brick (even an agile one like Colossus)
Fast enough for a human NOT TO SEE HIM MOVE.
I don't know if this is called superspeed
but it certainly is FAAAST

Plus I don't get all the doubt.
He has beaten a character with HERCULE'S strength (and superspeed, invulnerability, flight, etc) in h2h and Herc>Colossus.
He even fought Ultraman, Wonder Woman and Despero (after he took out Martian Manhanter) out of water and was fine.
Especially in Despero's case he was more than fine until D used telepathy.

All of these characters are above Colossus physically and in all of those fights Aquaman used only his physical attributes.

I don't see Piotr taking this.
Orin ftw.

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Did I seriously hear people say Aquaman is weak? Aquaman literally lifted a entire city block underwater erm


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Did I seriously hear people say Aquaman is weak? Aquaman literally lifted a entire city block underwater erm
its easier to lift things underwater


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I'll lift your mom underwater.


Anyway, Colossus drowns him.


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aquaman is not that close to as strong or as durable as colossus......at least not on average.


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its easier to lift things underwater


Not if it was completly waterlogged, no it's not. If there were air pockets that can leveate some of the weight not all.


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its easier to lift things underwater


Yeah things.
Not an entire city block, with buildings, streets, trees, cars, etc.
We are talking thousands of tons here.

Plus he lifted an 8 store building out of water.
And he supported another one.

On average Aquaman is not that strong.

Since 1994 when PAD started writing him and reestablished him as a character he is.
And that is the character's portrayal since then.
That's 14 years.
Not something that happened 1,2 or 10 times and then gone away.

His last 14 years show Orin as a much, much more powerful character than Colossus.

Fact.

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Did I seriously hear people say Aquaman is weak? Aquaman literally lifted a entire city block underwater erm
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its easier to lift things underwater


Oh snap!


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Yeah things.
Not an entire city block, with buildings, streets, trees, cars, etc.
We are talking thousands of tons here.
Or a few hundred pounds.

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