Pre-Retconned Brother is the pages and company in which The other two are drawn on and published. The Pre-Retcons represent the actual companies themselves. yaweh/presence is the writer I suppose. And the GEB is a character that stalemates Yaweh.
DC's Brother hasn't been Retconned tho. Only Marvel's.
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
They were nearly obliterated by Spectre and the LT.
I disagree.
The Presence has a family within DC's make-up,
a polar opposite, sons, (Lucy and Mike)
aspects (source/word/logos) whatever else I don't know about.
On top of that,
the Presence and Yaw relate to other drawings in completely in a comic fictional manner,
unlike the real writer/artist avatars that relate to other drawings ... as drawings.
That's the difference.
Carlin and Morrison's representation of writers was precise,
like FF#511's Kirbiesk,
and "Marvel 1985" ... depiction of Kirby and Lee as the true GODS of Marvel!
Well, Mr. Mxy once had to be stopped by the power of the Presence, ( don't quote me because I'm not sure on the comic) and the only other time we see him being barred from doing something is by Mike Carlin. So I figured The presence and the writer would be one and the same. And Marvel Can't retcon DC's blue brother unless you acknowlege the fact that the LT indeed had to confer with the Spectre before he acted. Also in the story, The Spectre and the LT were specs to the brothers. The Brothers were the companies avatars. Not writer avatars, but the companies embodied.
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
That's sufficient data or reason for me to give it the benefit of the doubt.
I need to know the specifics of what happened between the Presence and MXy,
before we can compare it to what we've both seen in the Carlin case.
If you're fair, you know I'm being fair and I make sense.
I never commented on the DC Brother post cross-over,
I asked if you've seen the DC Brother ever again?
Even someone just referencing the DC Brother of the event itself.
So let me know.
That was stated, I never lie.
But the Spectre and the LT completely warped the Brothers,
they merged them by force,
thgis merger nearly obliterated BOTH Brothers,
you can't deny this, I've proven it before.
Not in the arc.
In the arc,
they were jammed into Marvel's
and even DC's cosmology
ignoring a host of cosmic entities' position in Reality.
This is why the garbage was retconned 3 months after it's publication.
And again,
for all the power they were supposed to represent,
they still got owned momentarily by the LT and Spectre,
and nearly obliterated in fact.
In your mind. The Truth is the Brothers are the companies. Not the writers. Or Characters persay. But the actual embodiments of each. HENCE marvel VS. DC. They didn't ignore any cosmic hierachies. They make up and sustain such hierachies.
There are several Beings above the Spectre. This does not mean he's less powerful. Simple that they are more powerful. Kinda like you think the classic beyonder and the Classic molecule man are more powerful than the LT but less powerful than the kirby avatar.
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
I see you either ignored my post, or completely mis-understood it.
AGAIN: Please read it this time.
My point is, if those cats are above the LT, (above by infinities)
then they would stomp these Brothers,
if the LT & Spectre were able to WARP them,
and nearly Obliterate them.
Same goes for the cats above the Spectre over at DC.
Whatever you say, I'm not falling for this trick anymore.
That's an oxymoron.
And, I never said Spectre was weak.
This has no connection to what I was saying.
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May 30th, 2008 03:51 PM
True that, I seen it with my own eyes. 
