Erm, no. That's not what I was saying at all. Though this is how to change someone's words around to suit your purposes and obscure the original meaning.
You're not ignoring people, you're ignoring arguments and making the same points without addressings the points of others. It's pointless to debate against such people. Thus, my suggestion to ignore you. And sarcasm ("enlighten me, genius") can be just as insulting. Don't try to wiggle out of showing respect for others by changing the definition of bad behavior to include only things you haven't done.
So message boards work by taking others' quotes out of context? Is that really what you're saying here? You might want to re-think that, or at least rise above it rather than taking part in it yourself.
Actually, "moron" came after the comment I quoted of yours that was an implied insult. It doesn't excuse his words, but neither does finger-pointing absolve you of blame.
And yeah, the little analogy I set up with the strength classes. You read it, right?
Yep, that's also true. But I was talking of how not arguing against the general consensus is the the best thing to do on message boards to avoid getting banned.
So if I ever start being sarcastic and/or pointing that Rhino should be able to win some fights again just let me know, ok? And I'll stop right then, this is an intorerably disruptive behaviour and I'd hate to end up breaking the Internet.
Actually, it did not, but who cares?
Yep, but I wouldn't call that a 'mathematical model' by any stench of the imagination, y'know? That's why I was asking.
You should know that weaker characters like batman, CA, etc. have been hurting super strong guys since before we were born. Should it be done? Maybe (depends on whether a character is human or not).
There are high end feats and low ones. So if you take Rhino's high end durability feats then you must take spidey's high end strength feats too. Spidey has many class 50 and above feats for him to say that his strength should be higher than class 25. Hell he has multiple class 100 feats as well.
Also I saw a little 7 year old boy serious hurt a man who can lift more than 200lbs over his head with a sharp kick to the shin (he had on boots) while he was sitting down. And the boy can't even lift 50lbs over his head. Thus the man is more than 4x stronger. Rhino is less than 4x stronger than Spidey (based off many feats).
Plus you forget than Spidey can and will use lamposts, cars, etc. like a weaker person would use a bat against someone stronger.
And I caught you in a double standard. You are saying that Spidey shouldn't hurt Rhino because of the things Rhino endured. But you also say that Spidey should get hit since he has been hit numerous times. This is a double standard. If you say that Spidey shouldn't hurt Rhino then you should accept that he won't get hit either.
Wait, are you telling me that Spidey should be treated or is supposed to be in the Class 100 range? If so he'd be seen trading punches with the likes of classic Hulk, Thing, Colossus, Juggernaut, etc and I don't think I've ever seen such a thing happens. If in some comics he appears performing Class 100 or 50 feats this is more likely a f*uck-up from some writers that never cared to do the math. Now, in Rhino's case, he's supposed to have insane durability and strenght, otherwise what would be the point of this character in the 1st place?
Ok but I wonder what would have happened in case the grown-up dude decided to fight back
Yep, just like Rhino could start tossing cars arond and putting innocent bystanders at risk just to distract Spidey's attention.
Actually it was Digi who said that if something happens numerous times then it ceases being PIS, I was just following his logic but I don't quite agree with that. Anyways, it's been stablished since his 1st appearance that Rhino SHOULD be able to hit Spidey:
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Otherwise what would be the point of creating a villain like that?
1960's Spidey that underestimates every opponent ftw!
Actually, if we took Pete's first 50 issues or so, we'd have him lower than many street levelers, and certainly benath any of his rogues, who almost always punked him during their first meeting. It wasn't a good time for him. I can dig that issue that you ripped the scan out of if you want...I'm guessing Spidey wins eventually. Heck, the punch didn't even seem to hurt him much.
Once again, though, you're engaging in confirmation bias and showing only panels that support your cause.
And you conceded that the little kid (Spidey) could hurt the much larger man (Rhino). Good job. What you overlooked in the analogy is that the kid would be many times faster than the man in order to make it true to the comics. He'd also have weapons. Could the man still win, and could he occasionally hit the kid? Absolutely. But when you can run circles around a character, it changes the element. And make no mistake, Spidey can and has done it multiple times.
Fight any villain enough and both sides will get wins. No one's saying Rhino is so far from Spidey that he doesn't have a chance. But he'd clearly lose the majority, because that's what always happens.
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Jun 6th, 2008 07:37 PM
If so he'd be seen trading punches with the likes of classic Hulk, Thing, Colossus, Juggernaut, etc and I don't think I've ever seen such a thing happens. If in some comics he appears performing Class 100 or 50 feats this is more likely a f*uck-up from some writers that never cared to do the math. Now, in Rhino's case, he's supposed to have insane durability and strenght, otherwise what would be the point of this character in the 1st place?
