From my point of view, Palpatine has no way to survive death as it hasn't been shown in the movie (and we are only using the movie version if I understand correctly) that he can transport his soul and cheat death in the EU is, i don't know, maybe not of so much use here, Voldemort however we know has the Horcruxes because a entire movie eventually will be made about Harry looking after them...
Since his spirit fled Endor immediately afterwards, there would be no reason for the movie to show all. The ability to cheat death was something that Palpatine learned during the OT. If you want to get technical, no movie has yet to display Voldemort with his horcruxes, so perhaps we should eliminate those as well?
But it isn't showed in the movie, which is my point (getting technical), Voldemort has been shown in the first movie (when Quirrell was killed, Voldemorts spirit survived) to cheat death.
Not quiet the movie will show the Horcruxes that we know as a fact will be the case, will the movies concerning Star Wars ever show that Palpatine cheated death? Most likely not.
Did the thread starter specify Palpantine from the movies only?
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Didnt see that. In that case, the whole thing about Palpy cheating death doesnt play.
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As im sure there are many opinions out there here is my ruling:
The cheating death thing does not apply
Reasons:
this is the movie versus forum and the whole "cheat death" thing is contingent upon comic book knowlege and we are not using the comics as a point of refrence.
basically the only reason people use the "cheat death" thing is because of comic book knowlege.
if the comic did not exist then people wouldnt use the cheat death concept, so while some may consider it cannon, i am consiering it immaterial, and irrelevant for this thread because it is EU matterial and has nothing to do with the movie.
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How so? It is not stated in the movies that he can cheat death, therefore it is not applicable here.
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And it hasn't been stated in any Harry Potter movie that Voldemort can cheat death, either. If we're going to apply these fights to JUST WHAT WE SEE IN THE MOVIE (and not something we can infer that they have), neither of them possess that power.
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