Sentry vs Silver Surfer (Pure slugfest)

Sentry's battle with King Hulk can not be compared to a battle he would have with the Silver Surfer.

First of all the Silver Surfer's power cosmic holds no power over the Sentry, which is why I brought up Terrax. Terrax was impotent in his attempt to even faze the Sentry, and just because the Silver Surfer holds weight on Terrax does not mean that he would do a hell of a lot better than terrax did by blasting the hell out of Bob.

This power up that everyone is talking about has yet to be proven to have made the Silver Surfer leagues above his old self, what exactly did Galactus do to him? did he give him more power, or did he remove his inhibitions to use what he already possessed?

Galactus told Stardust who was stalemated by beta Ray Bill that should the Silver Surfer go rogue, that he/it (Stardust) may be needed to sanction him in the futture...... Now wait a minute!

Galactus made them both, and if he is saying that Stardust may be needed to deal with the Surfer later, this means that Norrin may be getting more hype than he deserves.

Featwise the Sentry has shown his resilience to the power cosmic, despite whether he is liked, or disliked.... as far as I'm concerned, the Sentry doesn't have to prove that he could beat the hell out of the Surfer, the Surfer needs to prove that he even has the power to affect Bob on any level.

The Sentry has feats under his belt that have shown that he is highly resistant to energy attacks, he was able to crush Terrax's hand with a smile, and stop his axe with one hand, while I can remember Terrax stating that he could have killed the Silver Surfer with one slice of his cosmic axe (The Morg vs Heralds storyline).

Evidence weighs more in favor of Bob beating the Silver Surfer than the other way around.... yes Norrin survived being smashed into a moon by Tenebrous, but this is not saying much. King Hulk shifted a continent, and was hitting The Sentry with mountain crushing hits, and the Sentry didn't go down. 😉

Like i said to begin with the Surfer can drain the hulk of gamma radiation and reduce him to his human form, he can not do this to the Sentry.

I'm fairly certain that using the Power Cosmic to amp one's strength is totally different from using the Power Cosmic to produce energy blasts that Sentry is apparently highly resistant to. Sentry, clearly, is not immune to physical attacks.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm fairly certain that using the Power Cosmic to amp one's strength is totally different from using the Power Cosmic to produce energy blasts that Sentry is apparently highly resistant to. Sentry, clearly, is not immune to physical attacks.

I'm fairly certain that in a DBZ episode that such a ploy might work, but Sentry isn't a slowpoke, and Norrin would need precious time to amp... the question here is will Bob fly home, sit on his couch and allow Norrin to amp, and then after watching re-runs of Maude fly back out into space to face the new retarded amped up Silver Surfer.

Last time I saw Surfer Amp he lost control of his mental faculties. Also let's not make Bob seem like he's a softy ok, he was taking hits from a guy that could shift a continent.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He stopped fighting and Hulk proceeded to bash him into the ground, which broke off the control disk, gave Surfer back his Power Cosmic, overloaded the rest of the disks, and they all went back to being friends. 😛

Originally posted by iceman24567
What credibility does Bob have in a slugfight? None what so ever. Even the Terax incident the man used his energy powers when he slugged it out with Hulk he tired himself so much he had to take a nap. The man does not have stamina on par with the Sufer nor can he amp himself to horrible levels. Bob maybe the greatest super hero on Marvel earth but he aint shit to The Surfer on any level. Oh and i hate how you always want people to explain exactly why they think a person wins when you make posts like "Sentry win" try practising what you preach.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I just wrote why i think he wins you gave me nothing and i wrote like a paragraph. Whatever Sentry loses 10/10

Originally posted by quanchi112
You still seem to give me no reasoning as to why the Surfer beats him. Let me ask you again. What has Norrin Radd done in a slugfest that tells you he takes this when this is Hulk's bread and butter.

Surfer ftp

Originally posted by iceman24567
So this is Hulks bread and butter and Hulk = Bob? Yeah the last slug fight Bob was in he sucked hard The Surfer would manhandle him with his upgrades he took physical shot from beings beyond Sentry and survived while Sentry lost all steam against the Hulk thats my reasoning as far as strength goes they both are incalculable and speed Surfer takes it so Durability would be Bob only hope ooop Surfers durability feats >> Sentry's. Thar she blows

Originally posted by quanchi112
What you left out was the fact that Hulk was also weaker and nowhere near his WW Hulk levels. Hulk won this fight plain and simple. I still dont know why youd use this fight to help your case. It hurts it if anything.

First off, I acknowledged that Hulk was also weakened during the fight, in my initial post. Secondly, so was Surfer. Plus he was cut off from the Power Cosmic. And he still slapped around the entire Warbound before he stopped fighting back. So even if Hulk is now at full strength, so too would be Surfer. Plus he gets his Power Cosmic back, able to amp his strength to incalcuable levels, plus being able to gather energy from the Sun and other sources. Ontop of that, he's gotten an upgrade, where he's tanked a physical assault from T & A, two beings who - together - at least equal Galactus in power.

Those, along with Iceman's power, are why he wins. Your only reason was because 'its Hulk's bread and butter.' To which, I believe the response was, "How'd that work out with Sentry?"

Originally posted by Enyalus
First off, I acknowledged that Hulk was also weakened during the fight, in my initial post. Secondly, so was Surfer. Plus he was cut off from the Power Cosmic. And he still slapped around the entire Warbound before he stopped fighting back. So even if Hulk is now at full strength, so too would be Surfer. Plus he gets his Power Cosmic back, able to amp his strength to incalcuable levels, plus being able to gather energy from the Sun and other sources. Ontop of that, he's gotten an upgrade, where he's tanked a physical assault from T & A, two beings who - together - at least equal Galactus in power.

Those, along with Iceman's power, are why he wins. Your only reason was because 'its Hulk's bread and butter.' To which, I believe the response was, "How'd that work out with Sentry?"

I just cant believe you tried using the Surfer's fight with a weakened Hulk as proof as to why the Surfer wins here. Anywho,Hulk wins. He is a much better brawler than the Surfer. Unless you have any feats to suggest otherwise.

I just cant believe you tried using the Surfer's fight with a weakened Hulk as proof as to why the Surfer wins here.

Because, um, Surfer was also weakened. And lacked strength boosting capabilities. And just like Hulk was upgraded, so too was Surfer. Plus, that showed his ability to 'brawl' so to speak. 1 vs. 6 in a gladitorial arena using purely physical combat says enough.

Besides, Thanos would also beat WWH in H2H. Unless you want to say Sentry > Thanos in H2H and strength. In addition, Thanos beat a pre-upgraded Surfer. Not the same as post-Annihilation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which beings?

Oops wasn't that pre upgrade?

Originally posted by iceman24567
The premordial gods that are near galactus level those beings. He took way more destructive force than Bob has.

It was postupgrade by the way.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Because, um, Surfer was also weakened. And lacked strength boosting capabilities. And just like Hulk was upgraded, so too was Surfer. Plus, that showed his ability to 'brawl' so to speak. 1 vs. 6 in a gladitorial arena using purely physical combat says enough.

Besides, Thanos would also beat WWH in H2H. Unless you want to say Sentry > Thanos in H2H and strength. In addition, Thanos beat a pre-upgraded Surfer. Not the same as post-Annihilation.

Thanos wouldnt beat Hulk down as effortlessly as he has beaten the beta male known as Norrin. Thats the point and also the point of Thanos' comments regarding the Hulk. Hulk is a bruiser while Norrin can brawl but not like the Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Plot device. Second off the Surfer was dying. Ill admit it was impressive but him manipulating the power of the crunch to consume Aegis and teneborus doesnt prove he can beat WW Hulk in a slugfest.

It was postupgrade by the way.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Are you serious? I never mentioned him beating them at all what the hell are you typing about? Surfer has way more fist fights than BOB because we are speaking about Sentry not Hulk. The fight with the gods were in reference to his durability Sentry would have died on the spot. Stop smoking Mary Jane or try harder to pay attention.

Surfer was dying and Galactus said as much. He was saved. basing this fight off of that plot device bs that Galactus had to save him makes no sense whatsoever imo.

Again WW Hulk stood the Juggernaut up and held his friggin ground against him after he beat the hell out of all those pesky mutants. For Sentry to burn this guy out shows just how physically strong and durable he is. No one else could burn the WW Hulk out or take his punches for long.

Sentry takes this. If the submissive male gets his power cosmic then its a different story but not in a slugfest.

Dude Quanchi you are completely ignoring the context of things.

Norrin stopped fighting, he was beating them before, he could have won, but then let Hulk beat on him.

Yeah sure Surfer amps and one shot Sentry until i see something from him with an ounce of credibility.

in civil war.
Iron man fled from Sentry for 3 panels... and sentry watched him fly away. Sentry even said how fast iron man could fly.... then within a few panels was upon iron man, and one shot him if i remember right.