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Jim Hammond(torch) VS. Scott Summers(cyclops) H2H
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namorsubby
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Originally posted by namorsubby
*sigh*

jim hammond is a synthetic model of a human being. he mimics human limitations by bleeding, bruising, feeling pain, and being rendered unconscious when exposed to a certain amount of head truama. . he is, however, made of materials much stronger than human material. so cyke cannot hurt him internally like he could a regular human being.


example:

"can't really damage my android body, but it hurts like the dickens"

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...h/wca053-14.jpg


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another example:

"he isn't human....even though i can hold him off, i can't hurt him"

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...pecial04-11.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...pecial04-12.jpg


i don't understand what's so hard to understand.


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I'm gonna still say cyclops even though you stated that he is clearly outmatched here in terms of everything besides skill.


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and i'll refrain from making any implications concerning that statement.......although it didn't deter others from making the same implication even though my statements were far less outright in their.........decision wink


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Just saying that you can't overlook Scott's skill and brain. There is a lot that he can do without optic blasts.

Anyway people are probably voting for Scott because he is outmatched in this fight. Why not pit him against someone who he is even with? I don't like taking it serious when someone has so many huge advantages over them. Its like putting Spidey in a fight against Juggernaut.


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i think if hammond was solely depending on his physical superiority, he'd lose. hammond may be superior, but as long as he's within the range of human ability, he could never be much more stronger or faster than cyke. scott isn't your average human either. his training may not have rendered him peak human status, but i don't think he's far from it.

and yeah, cyke has had more training and is more skilled

what i think tips it is the fact that jim hammond has been at this longer than he's been alive. and the fact he isn't untrained himself.......and he had a darn good teacher. all of that kind of just piles up with his physical advantages and puts him over FTW. but it's not like i don't think cyclops could take him a few out of 10.

i definitely don't think it's a 10/10 absolute victory for hammond.....nothing like pitting spidey against juggernaut. there's nothing spidey can do to win at all.


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except for PIS like wet cement.


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don't tell me spidey beat juggs in a fight.........ultilizing the prescence of wet cement? no

darn it. it's getting harder and harder for me to take up for him when he has so many examples of PIS laughing


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He didn't hurt Cain at all, but he tricked him into falling in some wet cement and he got stuck there. End of issue.


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* how about Cyclops wins because:

human brain >>> android brain

* how's that? smile

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Originally posted by peejayd
* how about Cyclops wins because:

human brain >>> android brain

* how's that? smile


Stop trolling.

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* i'm not... so please?

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i'd argue that jim hammond's brain might just be a little advanced........seeing as he learned all he needed to be a well-educated human being in a couple of weeks under the ground, in cement, listening to a radio, in an inert state.......but yeah, whatever. wink


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Originally posted by namorsubby
*sigh*

jim hammond is a synthetic model of a human being. he mimics human limitations by bleeding, bruising, feeling pain, and being rendered unconscious when exposed to a certain amount of head truama. . he is, however, made of materials much stronger than human material. so cyke cannot hurt him internally like he could a regular human being.




So. Even though "supposedly" Scott can't harm him ( roll eyes (sarcastic) ), a certain amount of head trauma will render Jim unconscious. So then...why exactly can't Scott just apply an absurd amount of head trauma on Jim and KO him? confused


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So. Even though "supposedly" Scott can't harm him ( roll eyes (sarcastic) ),


I don't know why you're slapping your forehead I get what hes saying.


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a certain amount of head trauma will render Jim unconscious.


So then...why exactly can't Scott just apply an absurd amount of head trauma on Jim and KO him? confused


....I don't think hes arguing that he can't do it. I think hes arguing since HT h2h abilities are very good (not as good as cykes) and because he is very durable its going to be hard for Cyke to do this.

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PZ, you've done a better job explaining his reasoning in your two sentences than namorsubby has done this whole thread. Regardless, I knew what he was going for, but I wanted to see what namorsubby's response was.


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PZ, you've done a better job explaining his reasoning in your two sentences than namorsubby has done this whole thread. Regardless, I knew what he was going for, but I wanted to see what namorsubby's response was.


Ok fair enough.

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So. Even though "supposedly" Scott can't harm him ( roll eyes (sarcastic) ), a certain amount of head trauma will render Jim unconscious. So then...why exactly can't Scott just apply an absurd amount of head trauma on Jim and KO him? confused
What the f**k? WTF? what do you mean WHY?. i said he could. have you people seen a word i've typed?????


i've said he could KO him from the beginning..........so, yes, I SUPPOSE HE CAN.


I've tried looking at this from a different perspective, but i still can't see how anything i've said is hard to understand. you guys have to be jerking me around........if not.........then i just don't know what to say.

edit:

oh, and i say "harm" as in cause any damage that is fatal


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i don't suppose you have a reason or explanation? cause you've said that like 4 times.do you have anything else to contribute?


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