but yeah, Thor wins this pretty easily. Ignoring matter manipulation, Magic Lightning, better speed with that hammer and the ability to BFR namor into deep space, his durability and top strength feats are way, WAY higher.
As far as I can see that's pretty much the whole thing. The invaders "hope namor finishes him quickly", thor takes one hit and namor is down. Even Thor AND THE NARRATOR HIMSELF comment on how fast namor got KTFO'ed. It's not really in dispute there. That's a one shot if I've ever seen one.
could namor have gotten up later? who knows? but per the panel there he was "felled" and pretty fast.
Thor has also one shotted classic abomination, and even the hulk (of that era, mind you) had problems pulling that off. It's not a huge stretch to say doing the same to namor is within the realm of possibility.
Not saying there haven't been other impressive fights (because there have been, I'm sure) but you DID say "never, ever" and there it is.
one-shot mean KO. if you actually saw the page after it or even took the time to see the big "unnh" coming from namor then you'd know he wasn't unconscious.
namor has one-shotted beings of greater durability underwater.....beings like savage hulk
besides that, there are still 4 other confrontations to examine.
namor has shrugged off thor tossing his hammer at him, twice, you really think one hit from his fist will do it for him?
Ok ok. I'll give you that we don't know just HOW out of it Namor was there. he might have just been staggered or something. Let's move on.
Thor tends to fight down to the level of his opponent. At his top end he's more than namor can deal with.
Underwater isn't going to help Namor versus thor for one REALLY big reason: Thor can teleport himself or others anywhere, immediately. put the battle underwater, Thor can BFR them both to the desert or on the surface of the sun where namor is screwed.
No BFR? Ok. Thor can matter manipulate with that hammer, transforming the water in the immediate area into something else that namor can't swim through or breathe. whoops, a whole lot of that ocean water is now concrete, dry land, tar, a sea of freaking fire, pick your poison. note that thor doesn't have to breathe, and can survive within the sun or in the middle of a nuclear blast just fine. Hell, Thor has taken direct shots from celestials without significant damage.
thor's also has little used weather control and manipulation abilities due to being the god of storms. he can summon up category 5 hurricanes, typhoons, drop or raise the temperature...again, the environment is going to be working AGAINST namor.
Thor also has MASSIVE energy projection abilities as well. That godforce blast has busted through celestials, and caused galactus a hell of a lot of pain. The lightning he can throw around is many, many many times hotter than the surface of a star. The hammer can even create antimatter, if Thor wanted to simply nuke Namor into oblivion with it. Namor is durable, but not THAT durable.
Speed? thor's natural speed is pretty fast, but he can throw and swing that hammer at 2x and 3x lightspeed. Even underwater, Namor isn't fast enough to avoid repeated hammer throws and blows when thor gets serious.
Namor is pretty badass, but Thor beats down gods and heralds on a regular basis. He's just too strong, and too versatile.
Last edited by Space M ummy on Dec 17th, 2008 at 05:01 AM
They have the exact same writing, and I highly doubt Namor would be moaning with an exclamation point after it.
Yes it would. He wasn't able to continue the fight, Thor and the narrator confirmed this... even if he was moaning (which means nothing except that he was in pain), he was done the fight.
Well, it is. Thor when he's pissed off has damaged Celestials, beat people who were earlier able to best him (and Grog also had Mjolnir), beat the hell out of Hela, took it to Loki and Fenris, beat Mangog, etc. It would be OK if Thor wasn't pissed, but if he's pissed that feat is about as good as Batman kicking Cap Marvel back into Billy.
classic thor actually has better feats than current Thor does. I'm not sure why there's an impression on the board that the opposite is true.
Classic thor threw an odinsword thousands of feet tall straight through exitar. the guy is/was a monster.
My point in posting all that is that given that it's a board fight (re: both will fight to the best of their abilities) underwater won't help namor at all, since thor's skillset can easily remove any advantages Namor gains from being underwater- most notably by simply BFR'ing namor OUT of the water and somewhere he can't survive for an instant-win.
Classic Thor could also time travel, btw. That's kind of a game breaker right there.
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