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Who could survive Superman's Heat-vision Lobotomy?
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Doctor-Alvis
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
no, once adamantium cools from the initial creation, it is forever set in whatever form it's molded into.

adamantium has to be kept in molten form before it can be molded, once the shape is satisfactory it is left to cool. once that happens adamantium cannot change it's state of matter (solid) through temperature (no melting point/boiling point), or by chemical reaction. apparently only molecular manipulation can effect primary adamantium's solid state (as displayed by magneto).

but the ambient heat from the beams would radiate through the metal and vaporize all his flesh, not sure if his brain would come back if there isn't any brain cells left = brain death.

I don't claim to be a scientist but if it had no melting point wouldn't that mean it can absorb infinite energy?

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Jan 20th, 2009 09:29 AM

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yes it can..wolverine can do anything no expression

but seriously..no one really think of that..the only think they care about is making wolverine into a cool character..they don't care about real science..

Jan 20th, 2009 09:50 AM

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Bouboumaster
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Surfer, Hulk.

And if we count the HF, I ad Wolverine. The rest become vegetables.

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Maybe Surfer...okay, probably Surfer.

But the rest have zero chance, and anyone saying they do needs to be slapped.

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Maybe Surfer...okay, probably Surfer.

But the rest have zero chance, and anyone saying they do needs to be slapped.

Spank me please!

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Spank me please!

You're waaaay too excited about that...

Jan 20th, 2009 03:48 PM

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Logan and Hulk would be able to reform and recover but imo that is not resisting it. They will be braindead but not for long. Surfer would be able to take it to the head.

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Originally posted by Lord Feron
Logan and Hulk would be able to reform and recover but imo that is not resisting it. They will be braindead but not for long. Surfer would be able to take it to the head.

The lobotomy is for 10 seconds. I'm inclined to say Wolverine would survive, because of the adamantium skull...but Hulk's skull would be melted completely through. no expression

Jan 20th, 2009 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Enyalus
The lobotomy is for 10 seconds. I'm inclined to say Wolverine would survive, because of the adamantium skull...but Hulk's skull would be melted completely through.

the heat should pretty much burnout his brain right? I mean the metal can get pretty damn hot.

Jan 20th, 2009 03:57 PM

janus77
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Hulk is incredibly resistent to heat - remember he's already gone through Wormholes and blackholes without any form of protection.

if the H-V could actually penetrate, Hulk's HF would be replacing tissue at a rate to compensate.

remember too Hulk's had his spine ripped right through - twice - during a fight, only for it to heal up without him missing a beat (in the fight).

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Originally posted by Enyalus
The lobotomy is for 10 seconds. I'm inclined to say Wolverine would survive, because of the adamantium skull...but Hulk's skull would be melted completely through.

Hulk have swined in lava when he saved Sakaar.

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Jan 20th, 2009 04:15 PM

AsbestosFlaygon
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Surfer

and Deadpool

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Didn't Wolverine cut Deadpool's head off once and he said if he didn't get it reattached within minutes he was a goner?

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Surfer and the Hulk.

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Didn't Wolverine cut Deadpool's head off once and he said if he didn't get it reattached within minutes he was a goner?

Yeah, but thats because his head was still like, 'alive'.

Deadpool got melted to goo and healed in like, 3 panels.

Anyway, Surfer survives. If we allow healing then Logan and Hulk probably do, but only because of healing.

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Originally posted by Raoul

honestly though. i don't think it's outside the realm of possibility. not saying he can, just saying it might not be so cut and dry...

also, if superman did hv logan's brain, i wonder if he would grow back with his entire body reduced to cinders. i mean, if superman is using a concentrated blast, the heat it gives off alone should burn through flesh...

He's done it before. Wolverines powers defy common sense, and have some kind of meta physical connections. I.e. if his soul wins in some weird meta physical duel, his body survives. Well thats the recent interpretation, although a Sentinel Blast killed him in Thingy Future past.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
no, once adamantium cools from the initial creation, it is forever set in whatever form it's molded into.

adamantium has to be kept in molten form before it can be molded, once the shape is satisfactory it is left to cool. once that happens adamantium cannot change it's state of matter (solid) through temperature (no melting point/boiling point), or by chemical reaction. apparently only molecular manipulation can effect primary adamantium's solid state (as displayed by magneto).

but the ambient heat from the beams would radiate through the metal and vaporize all his flesh, not sure if his brain would come back if there isn't any brain cells left = brain death.

That's according to the film, and no its susceptible to magnetic forces, as seen with Magneto.

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Originally posted by Raoul
can't superman's hv melt adamantium?

yeah, i said it...

Yes he can easily.

People seem to forget that the adamantium had to be liquid to be grafted to logans bones.

He did'nt just swallow some adamantium bars.

Considering that Supermans heat ray at full power is as hot as the sun yes he can liquify adamantium.

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Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I don't claim to be a scientist but if it had no melting point wouldn't that mean it can absorb infinite energy?

There are common sense rules (Which don't apply to comics) that suggest otherwise. For example, if it absorbs all energy, then why the hell can we see it. ? I.e. it would act as a black hole, no light would be able to escape it. Also it would absorb all the heat from Wolverines Brain, meaning no metabolism. Also if Wolverines brain is entirely sealed off, where does it get the biological materials to sustain and repair itself ? This is why this debate is meaningless, unless you find that adamantium can be melted, and then whether Supes heat vision reaches these temps.

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