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I know that I'm still young and still learning and what I knew just a few years ago has changed, things that I thought were important are now just trivial things to me.


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The boy has probably been indoctrinated and force feed scripture from birth to produce this Mega-church wet dream.

I'm sure if an impartial investigator actually sat the boy down and asked him to explain the drivel coming from his mouth I think you will quite quickly find that its all just rehearsed empty words.

Oh and Sym, I didn't call you brainwashed. Not sure where Moff got that from (Luke 13:12? I made that up please don't quote it to me I just don't care, I was making about you reading into things that aren't there)


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You are of course assuming that God exists. And why would God (if he exists choose a 10yr boy to be his voice? Why not a world leader who has the ears of the world?


Maybe God likes messing with people. Maybe he thinks choosing a child will make more of a point. Assuming God exists.

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And how the hell can a 10yr old boy get life experience from God???


You're kidding right? Think about that for a second.

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Maybe the voices in the kids head are just that, voices in his head not a deity.


Possibly. They could be his own thoughts too. Either way he seems to be coping pretty well.


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So, which is the problem? That a 10 year old kid might be doing something their parent's want them to do (which is a ludicrous complaint to make) or that the 10 year old wont have enough experience (which is a completely aesthetic point anyways)?

Like seriously, look at organized sports. Kids are put into these at all ages by parents. Lots of times they enjoy it, but it is often not their direct-human-freewill. Gretzky's parents had him on a rink when he was like 6, day after day. You tellin' me Wayne doesn't enjoy a good game of hockey?

And if you don't think a kid has anything useful to say about God (aside from being ignorant) you could just not listen to them...

I only skimmed the pages, am I missing something?


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So, which is the problem? ...


The idea that this kid is there because god made him special, that is the problem.


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The idea that this kid is there because god made him special, that is the problem.


what is the problem with that?


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what is the problem with that?


It's delusional.


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lol

so is santa or, well, 99% of anything we tell children

"no, mommy and daddy aren't fighting, we are just..... disagreeing"


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lol

so is santa or, well, 99% of anything we tell children

"no, mommy and daddy aren't fighting, we are just..... disagreeing"


eek! Shut your mouth.


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So, which is the problem? That a 10 year old kid might be doing something their parent's want them to do (which is a ludicrous complaint to make) or that the 10 year old wont have enough experience (which is a completely aesthetic point anyways)?

Like seriously, look at organized sports. Kids are put into these at all ages by parents. Lots of times they enjoy it, but it is often not their direct-human-freewill. Gretzky's parents had him on a rink when he was like 6, day after day. You tellin' me Wayne doesn't enjoy a good game of hockey?

And if you don't think a kid has anything useful to say about God (aside from being ignorant) you could just not listen to them...

I only skimmed the pages, am I missing something?
I don't think that it is the problem that they are doing what their parents want but that they are teaching the word of god without knowing what it really means. Playing sports that their parents want them to do is not the same, they are not telling people how to live their lives through god's teachings.


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I don't think that it is the problem that they are doing what their parents want but that they are teaching the word of god without knowing what it really means. Playing sports that their parents want them to do is not the same, they are not telling people how to live their lives through god's teachings.


so you would argue that one is not allowed to pass their spiritual beliefs to their children?

would you also say this goes for political beliefs? beliefs about what constitutes truth? about morality?

EDIT: most industrial nations have a policy of sending 10 year old to physical institutions where government mandated material is forcibly taught to them with threat of reprimand and is tested and evaluated according to government standard. How is this any better?


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so you would argue that one is not allowed to pass their spiritual beliefs to their children?

would you also say this goes for political beliefs? beliefs about what constitutes truth? about morality?

EDIT: most industrial nations have a policy of sending 10 year old to physical institutions where government mandated material is forcibly taught to them with threat of reprimand and is tested and evaluated according to government standard. How is this any better?
I do not argue that you should not pass your beliefs onto your children but that your child should not be preaching when they do not understand what it is that they are saying.


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I do not argue that you should not pass your beliefs onto your children but that your child should not be preaching when they do not understand what it is that they are saying.


How do you know he does not understand what he is saying?


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I do not argue that you should not pass your beliefs onto your children but that your child should not be preaching when they do not understand what it is that they are saying.


I watched most of the video... I don't think he is talking about any complicated scripture....

I think you might be making the fallacious jump from this video to the idea that the child must not be sincere.

Is a 10 year old not allowed to be passionate about religion? when I was 10 I KNEW I wanted to be an archeologist. :shrug:


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How do you know he does not understand what he is saying?
I do not know for sure but most children do not comprehend things like this, they are easily swayed to believe what their parents tell them. This is much the same as with me and my father which does not believe in evolution as I do now to be the creation of god.


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I watched a video I do not know if it is this one where there was 3 kids preaching, one was a white kid preaching hell and damnation, a black kid doing faith healing and a mexican girl that people think she is a saint.


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I watched a video I do not know if it is this one where there was 3 kids preaching, one was a white kid preaching hell and damnation, a black kid doing faith healing and a mexican girl that people think she is a saint.


the video in this thread is nothing like that

the child is talking about God empowering even the youngest and weakest


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How do you know he does not understand what he is saying?


I've seen parrots repeating what humans have said back to them "parrot fashion". This does not equate to understanding by the parrot.

This child has had bible rubbish drilled into him probably from birth to the point where he is just regurgitating it. It would be impossible for a child of that age to fully understand and comprehend the meaning, context and consequences of the things he is saying.


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I've seen parrots repeating what humans have said back to them "parrot fashion". This does not equate to understanding by the parrot.

This child has had bible rubbish drilled into him probably from birth to the point where he is just regurgitating it. It would be impossible for a child of that age to fully understand and comprehend the meaning, context and consequences of the things he is saying.


I just dropped it cause no one is thinking about how this actually works in application.


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the video in this thread is nothing like that

the child is talking about God empowering even the youngest and weakest
Well it may not be the same video but these are still child preachers, this kid may be different than the ones that I saw but it still applies.


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