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Was Jesus a white dude?
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jesus would be a dark skinned arab not black nor exactly white.


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Surely they are worshipping a false idol.



Just because the description is wrong doesn't mean the idol is false.

wink They're all still worshiping the same mans' word's and ideals.

The color of his skin doesn't matter in the slightest.


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Just because the description is wrong doesn't mean the idol is false.

wink They're all still worshiping the same mans' word's and ideals.

The color of his skin doesn't matter in the slightest.


Then why is he sometimes depicted as a white man.


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Then why is he sometimes depicted as a white man.


Because it's all up to the artist.


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Because it's all up to the artist.


If he is clearly a darker skinned man and the artist does it, that's satire. When an entire culture accepts that as truth, it's a different thing.


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He was an Arab.

Either from Israelite or Palestinian descent.


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Jesus is a religious character and therefore a matter of faith, etc. Basically that is the same as a fictitious character, so he can be anything you want. He's about as real as Superman and Frankenstein. Also, it's not like any self-respecting white man would want a black Jesus or like a self-respecting black man would want a white Jesus. Because the concept of races has been around for 500 years or so, a man of one race will simply not find a deity of another to be palatable or anything he can relate to. What self-respecting Europid would want a black Jesus? Nobody alive today has actually seen this guy (assuming he's real), so he can be any color you want, and nobody can prove anything for an absolute fact. Asian Christians IIRC have often depicted Jesus as Chinese-looking, and I'm fine with that even though, as a Caucasoid myself, I naturally prefer a white Jesus. And I must admit that I find the idea of trying to make religion into a racial issue dirties, sullies and defiles the value, subject and positive qualities of it. It just feels wrong for some reason.


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Jesus is a religious character and therefore a matter of faith, etc. Basically that is the same as a fictitious character, so he can be anything you want. He's about as real as Superman and Frankenstein. Also, it's not like any self-respecting white man would want a black Jesus or like a self-respecting black man would want a white Jesus. Because the concept of races has been around for 500 years or so, a man of one race will simply not find a deity of another to be palatable or anything he can relate to. What self-respecting Europid would want a black Jesus? Nobody alive today has actually seen this guy (assuming he's real), so he can be any color you want. Asian Christians IIRC have often depicted Jesus as Chinese-looking, and I'm fine with that even though, as a Caucasoid myself, I naturally prefer a white Jesus. And I must admit that I find the idea of trying to make religion into a racial issue dirties, sullies and defiles the value, subject and positive qualities of it. It just feels wrong for some reason.

His race is a very easy issue to resolve. He would look like the people where he was born look.


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His race is a very easy issue to resolve. He would look like the people where he was born look.



Jesus is a creation of Mankind. Nobody today has seen him. Therefore, it doesn't matter what color he really was, only what color the majority believe he was. Jesus Christ exists in the hearts and minds of Men, and thus what he is, is only what we believe him to be. Jesus was a human being, correct? But regardless of whether or not he was truly a god in human form, would this man-god have existed if there was no human race? The actual Jesus being olive-skinned and black-bearded doesn't matter if everyone believes he was white, because he'll only exist as long as we exist and as long as we believe in him and remember him.


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His race is a very easy issue to resolve. He would look like the people where he was born look.


So if an Asian chick has a baby in Africa it'll come out Black? Kinky. I didn't know genetics worked that way.


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so what you are really saying is that Reverend Moon is on the right track then?


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M-maybe?


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asian guy, started the "Moonies" (that is more of a slanderous term, I forget the actual name, and can't be bothered to type "moonies" into the google search bar on my web browser). Believes that the execution of Christ was a mistake and that he is the messiah on earth meant to right this problem.

looked it up, its the unification church. Asian chick giving birth, discussion of the race of christ, just made me think of him.


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asian guy, started the "Moonies" (that is more of a slanderous term, I forget the actual name, and can't be bothered to type "moonies" into the google search bar on my web browser). Believes that the execution of Christ was a mistake and that he is the messiah on earth meant to right this problem.

looked it up, its the unification church. Asian chick giving birth, discussion of the race of christ, just made me think of him.



I don't know who or what you're talking about...who is this "Asian guy"? And what is "Moonies"?


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I don't know who or what you're talking about...who is this "Asian guy"? And what is "Moonies"?


lol

as my last 2 posts tried to explain, the Moonies are followers of the "Unification Church", a new religious movement that originated in Korea, I think during the late 70s.

Reverend Moon is its leader. He is a self styled messiah. The main theological riff with mainstream christianity (though there are many) is the idea that Jesus' crucifixion on the cross was a mistake, that God had meant for Jesus to survive. Reverend Moon is this "asian guy", as he is Korean.

Because of this, he is here to complete God's true plan as the real messiah.

"Moonie" is a derogation term for a follower of the unification church, apparently it is quite insulting


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Jesus is a creation of Mankind. Nobody today has seen him. Therefore, it doesn't matter what color he really was, only what color the majority believe he was. Jesus Christ exists in the hearts and minds of Men, and thus what he is, is only what we believe him to be. Jesus was a human being, correct? But regardless of whether or not he was truly a god in human form, would this man-god have existed if there was no human race? The actual Jesus being olive-skinned and black-bearded doesn't matter if everyone believes he was white, because he'll only exist as long as we exist and as long as we believe in him and remember him.

So basically we're free to completely ignore people's race and make up whatever we feel like. Sweet, soon MLK will be white since he only survives in our memory. Obama=First Asian president. Susan B. Anthony? 100% male. I mean, they're all going to survive in our memory, it doesn't matter if we completely misrepresent their lives.


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Why does 90% of the Christian faith worship a white, blonde haired and blue eye fella, when if he truly was born in Jerusalem he would have more than likely had dark skin, brown/black hair and brown eyes (guessing on the eyes)?

Surely they are worshipping a false idol.


Based on the area of the world in which Jesus lived he would have had olive skin, brown/black hair, and due to the fact that he was a Carpenter before he started his ministry, he would have been fairly muscular.

Though, I have to admit. I've never seen an image of a blond haired and blue eyed Jesus. No one I've ever spoken to has had a blond haired blue eyed Jesus. And when you Google Jesus you usually get something along this template:

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Granted, the depiction Jesus in the picture above still has white skin but the fact that most images that you find have Jesus with brown hair would go to show that not 90% of the christian faith worship Jesus with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Infact the only time I saw a blond haired Jesus was when I was in the local theater's production of God-spell, and the person playing Jesus was blonde.


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So basically we're free to completely ignore people's race and make up whatever we feel like. Sweet, soon MLK will be white since he only survives in our memory. Obama=First Asian president. Susan B. Anthony? 100% male. I mean, they're all going to survive in our memory, it doesn't matter if we completely misrepresent their lives.


Photographs exist of all three of those people.


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Reverend Moon is its leader. He is a self styled messiah. The main theological riff with mainstream christianity (though there are many) is the idea that Jesus' crucifixion on the cross was a mistake, that God had meant for Jesus to survive. Reverend Moon is this "asian guy", as he is Korean.


Wait, that would make God fallible. Why are the Moonites worshipping a god with faults?

He has stepped down and his son (one of) is the new Messiah sent by God to get the world on the right track (go figure). The chruch now accepts paypal, along with all major credit cards and money orders.


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Wait, that would make God fallible. Why are the Moonites worshipping a god with faults?

He has stepped down and his son (one of) is the new Messiah sent by God to get the world on the right track (go figure). The chruch now accepts paypal, along with all major credit cards and money orders.


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