Magneto can feel feel/see that Vulcan's suit is metal.
It took Vulcan a bit to realize that the Eldest was getting power from his people when it was clearly funneling into him.
He doesn't have CA.
Well, he'd be shunting the power from someone who manipulates the EM field for a living. Unlike Warlock, he isn't flaunting his power source around, and he won't be drained like that.
Also, he drained the power source directly from Warlock. To shunt Magneto's power, he'd have to stop any electromagnetic energy from reaching Magneto, or even coming close. Which to me, seems hard since Magneto is a master at manipulating it himself, and can draw power from the planet... as well as it would still leave Magneto with power...
Didn't a drugged Polaris give Vulcan some trouble as well? IIRC anyway.
Yet Phoenix was still very powerful, no? I mean, she did heal the M’Kraan Crystal back then (with help from homos), which if I recall from GS' arguments... MULTIVERSE!!!!!!!1
Plus, I wasn't calling Phoenix Vulcan in that instance (like you're implying Warlock is Mags), I was comparing it to Vulcan's feat since it's similar.
Mags = Vulcan
Phoenix = Warlock
In the instances. Only Phoenix>Warlock.
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that's why i conceded the quick draw. not sure if mag's could do something before vulcan could react. vulcan might be able to shield himself.
if he can cut through mag's shields, he could ko mags though. and it seems he could drain mags as quickly as mags could absorb the energy.
don't think she really 'gave him trouble'. i thought he shut her down pretty quickly then had the techs put her back under. i think she hurt him once with a blindside attack. can't remember exactly but i'm sure someone will have scans.
hrm. now i think about it i don't think he did. maybe it was polaris's shields i'm thinking of. he walked through SOMEONE's frigging shield . . . so many x-overs it's hard to remember what issues things happened in.
ss would win. don't think vulcan's come into his FULL power yet, plus ss draws power from the UNIVERSE. that's a taller order. it is a fight i would love to see though. i'm fascinated by vulcan's powerset. i'd like to see him make the most of it.
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careful bran--master's will be all over your a$$ you keep up that kind of talk!
and she WAS powerful, just inconsistently so, and inexperienced. she had some poor showings around that time as well as some good ones.
i got what you're saying but vulcan EASILY defeated warlock and mags was holding his own against a noob jean. THAT incarnation of phoenix, at that time, might not be very far above warlock either. jean was fragile. no guarantee a herald leveller like warlock couldn't have matched her or taken her out.
That's why I added the 'help from homos' part so I didn't have to ignore a bunch of posts that show them helping her save the multiverseuniverse 30 square feet of area they were occupying.
She's gay.
He only won that battle because he looked better. He never took him out, he just made Warlock look bad.
Warlock was still able to get away and clock him with a few hits.
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i checked a little bit--lorna did hurt him while he was battling rachel so it was a surprise attack. he did put her down pretty easily a later time.
well, if he cuts mags off from drawing power from the EM field--like he did to the eldest--he should be weakened. i guess it's not impossible to say mags has reserves WITHIN him, but i'm not sure about that, nor how much. and if he's cut off, vulcan could then just draw the rest out of him. maybe. or shut down his powers, as he did to rachel.
vulcan. i'm pretty sure it was lorna's shields (maybe an energy field) he walked through but couldn't find the scan.
i brought up that what if stuff purely to show what the writers at marvel think of him, or at least his potential. here's what i think SHOULD happen if he faced mag's (again, non-canon, but i still find it interesting ):
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