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Er no. Cyclops is a master strategist he should be able to get 3 wins.


Wouldn't call him a master strategist.


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My point was simply that he must have some knowledge of how assasins do their business eventhough hes not an active member.

no it doesent it pretty lame arguement

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My point was simply that he must have some knowledge of how assasins do their business eventhough hes not an active member.


Not really. I thought he just leaved it up to Wolverine when it came to how they executed their plans.


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Wouldn't call him a master strategist.


Nick Fury would.


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Not really. I thought he just leaved it up to Wolverine when it came to how they executed their plans.


Not all the time I dont think Wolverine always agrees. Anyway I his years of experience in the X-men and knowing Wolverine will help to an extent, im pretty sure hes gone up against assassins at some point.


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scot only picks the targets and the team, he does not tell wolverine and x-force how to kill there target or carry out there stategy

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Nick Fury would.


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Not all the time I dont think Wolverine always agrees. Anyway I his years of experience in the X-men and knowing Wolverine will help to an extent, im pretty sure hes gone up against assassins at some point.


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no it won't help at all from this being a spite. You know it is you made it. Just admitt it is, and be done with it now you just reaching for the sake of not looking like you created a spite thread so your love crush would win

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no it won't help at all from this being a spite. You know it is you made it. Just admitt it is, and be done with it now you just reaching for the sake of not looking like you created a spite thread so your love crush would win


Read what I posted and stop arguing.


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Read what I posted and stop arguing.

it a debate the entire point is to argue.


and what you posted above means nothing and does not make it anyless a spiute thread.

the entire thread limits cyclopes and caters to punisher. Punisher fights like this every single day, he trains to fight like this he lives for it, cyclopes never fights this way nor trains for it. also limits his powers due to inocents and biulings.
it a dam spite thread which you made on purposes.

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As Nick Fury has already stated, twice, Scott Summers lacks the killer instict for this thread, he fails. he is chanceless, master stratagist maybe in an all out team vs team battle zone, when it comes to stealth, hunter/killer tactics, he is null and void in this Spite thread.


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it a debate the entire point is to argue.


and what you posted above means nothing and does not make it anyless a spiute thread.

the entire thread limits cyclopes and caters to punisher. Punisher fights like this every single day, he trains to fight like this he lives for it, cyclopes never fights this way nor trains for it. also limits his powers due to inocents and biulings.
it a dam spite thread which you made on purposes.


Cyclops has never been hunted by assassins before? Cyclops is still extremely accurate.


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As Nick Fury has already stated, twice, Scott Summers lacks the killer instict for this thread, he fails. he is chanceless, master stratagist maybe in an all out team vs team battle zone, when it comes to stealth, hunter/killer tactics, he is null and void in this Spite thread.


Thats not the case nowhere days. Starting X-force shows his change in mentality.


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Cyclops has never been hunted by assassins before? Cyclops is still extremely accurate.




Thats not the case nowhere days. Starting X-force shows his change in mentality.


Not to my knowledge, and not in a city and certainly not some one of punishe rknwoeldge and experiences this is a spite thread.






not really it certainly does not mean he has a killer intent now, if he did he bee on the team him self which he aint, which shows to prove he actaully lacks the killer intent, but in understands that some of there bad guys need to be killed (by others) in order to save his race.

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Cyclops loses here, it is inevitable. There is no Spoon.


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Not to my knowledge, and not in a city and certainly not some one of punishe rknwoeldge and experiences this is a spite thread.


Yeah hes been hunted before. Maybe not in a city but he can use his head and adapt thats why hes a master strategist.





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not really it certainly does not mean he has a killer intent now, if he did he bee on the team him self which he aint, which shows to prove he actaully lacks the killer intent,


That because hes not as skillful.


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but in understands that some of there bad guys need to be killed (by others) in order to save his race.


Yeah but for some reason he never decided to do it in the past. You can clearly see hes more vicious. If torturing people isnt an example of that I dont know what is.

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Cyclops loses here, it is inevitable. There is no Spoon.


Sure but its not spite.


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He'd be gunned down 10/10. And i can't see much if any room for argument. "He's a master stratagist" doesn't cut it here. So is Frank, and in the given stipulations, this is Franks show and boy he doth run it!

An open field would be Spite in Cyclops favour and this city hunter/prey game is Spite in Franks.


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"He's a master stratagist" doesn't cut it here.


Why not?


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Why not?


Because is just like saying Batman with prep > all

Why would being a lesser master stratagist than your combatant, in a scenerio that fits his tactical prowess possibly give Cyke a win?

So, he's a master stratagist right?

What would he do?

How would he win?

I cn think of 5 ways right now how Punisher with his arsenal might pull of a clean win, can you account for Scotts?


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Because is just like saying Batman with prep > all

Why would being a lesser master stratagist than your combatant, in a scenerio that fits his tactical prowess possibly give Cyke a win?

So, he's a master stratagist right?

What would he do?

How would he win?

I cn think of 5 ways right now how Punisher with his arsenal might pull of a clean win, can you account for Scotts?


Well im not a master strategist but he does actually know what a sniprer is and has gotten out of deagh traps. Why are Punishers traps immune to de detected?

Obvoulsy Punisher could snipe him but you dont think somebody of Cyke intelligence could figure away to make that difficult?


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Well im not a master strategist but he does actually know what a sniprer is and has gotten out of deagh traps. Why are Punishers traps immune to de detected?

Obvoulsy Punisher could snipe him but you dont think somebody of Cyke intelligence could figure away to make that difficult?


Like?

One example of how Cyclops can win? One feesable example, that given the knowledge Punisher has will get Cyke a win.

You're the OP, you must have a tiny idea of how Cyke can win when you started the thread, other than "he sees him and shoots him with eye beams!!" And ofcourse the OP giving us one feesable example of how one of his combatants could pull a win, will stop all claims of Spite.

So...How can Cyke win here?


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Actually I was going to concede but if you're going to be like that..

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Like?

One example of how Cyclops can win? One feesable example, that given the knowledge Punisher has will get Cyke a win.

You're the OP, you must have a tiny idea of how Cyke can win when you started the thread, other than "he sees him and shoots him with eye beams!!" And ofcourse the OP giving us one feesable example of how one of his combatants could pull a win, will stop all claims of Spite.

So...How can Cyke win here?


He actually knows what a sniper is. Its actually possible for him to figure out place where he might be he could actually set up trap. Eventhough he lacks the expeirence he has the intelligence.


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