These jokes have not even READ shit with Zoom in it. Seriously, there's a reason why nobody has ever properly beaten Zoom.
With CIS on, Zoom would try to help and improve Norrin. Without it, we have someone who's capable of hitting ridiculously hard, is so much faster that he makes Wally and Superman seem like statues and has unlimited time travel. The Flash could NOT SEE HIM. What the fukc does Silver Surfer's speed matters here? He can't compete.
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and if ss starts the fight in the air? ss can also sense the future (can't recall the issue but i'm sure it was in the romita run--goob probably knows it). his cosmic awareness grants him a form of prescience. he should be able to use that power to sense/know an attack is coming and defend against it.
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after rereading this thread and looking through a couple books and the zoom respect thread, i gotta say . . . .
no reason ss can't win this.
for all the talk about how zoom is "never hit", or he's hit only via PIS, flash has hit him MANY MANY times. in fact, by having jesse incant the SF formula and have it's powers added to flashes, flash was EQUAL to zoom in speed. not only that, at those relativistic speeds, zoom's punches weren't much more powerful than a normal person's. the power of his punches stems from momentum. if ss can move fast enough, the punches from zoom wouldn't even phase him.
with ss's senses, his overwhelming durability edge and his own speed + all his other powers, i see no way zoom can win this. given a cursory knowledge of zoom's powers, ss starts in the air, he's ready for a blitz, he attunes his senses and looks forward in time and he destroys zoom.
flash was able to perceive zoom as a blur when he accelerated to lightspeed. ss can perceive things move his body at 1000's of x that speed. i see no advantage that zoom has.
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eh? where has he ever done that? if ss knows zoom can time travel, ss can time travel himself. becomes quick draw at that point i suppose. or it comes down to who you think has faster travel speed.
So, Kris again.. Do you believe Zoom can beat Thanos, Odin or Tyrant? I mean they don't have the combat or travel speed Zoom does correct? You also claim the cosmic awareness will do no good with zoom and he hits harder then superman. If he doesn't want to be hit he won't be hit correct. So, you would then give Zoom the win against said characters?