KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Movies » Movie Discussion » Movie Versus Forum » Spider-Man vs. Alice

Spider-Man vs. Alice
Started by: Nemesis X

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (4): « 1 2 [3] 4 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Placidity
Chief Executive Officer

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Germany

quote: (post)
Originally posted by dadudemon

Not even comic book Spiderman would stand up to 2 fully automatics at that close of a range.


Not really true.

(please log in to view the image)
(please log in to view the image)
(please log in to view the image)


__________________

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 06:53 AM
Placidity is currently offline Click here to Send Placidity a Private Message Find more posts by Placidity Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Robtard
You're right, it started to trickle after about 2 seconds; it took a 5-6 before he started to scream, ergo, my point stands, she tries that, Spider-man ends up with a nose-bleed and she ends up getting a punched/kicked and dead or dieing.

Before you say bullshit again. Here's a still showing that even at 4:17-18, dude only has a nosebleed and the mind-kill has yet to take effect.

(please log in to view the image)
Rob, it took a second for the nosebleed, and maybe 4 for him to scream in pain as she caved his head in, stop making shit up. AND, she did this through a damn video camera, no doubt it will take far less time and will be far more powerful close up, as it will be with Spidey.

OK, let's say Spidey comes at her right away, she draws her guns and blasts away, and Spidey dodges (as if), well, she has more than enough time to TK his ass, he'll be jumping around all nimbly bimbly and then BAM, dead. BLAM BLAM BLAM, guns firing AND she is TKing him at the same time. Yes, she can do both at once, all she needs do do is glance at him to TK him. No matter how you cut it, she is too much for Spidey.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 06:59 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Robtard
Senor Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Captain's Chair, CA

She starts at 4:13 and by 4:18 he's screaming, so, what I already said.

"You're right, it started to trickle after about 2 seconds; it took a 5-6 before he started to scream" -Robtard

13+5-6 = 18-19, I maybe went over a second. 5 seconds at close range is more than enough time for Spider-man to get on her shit and force her to defend/drop the TK or get her shit pushed in. I know you're an Alice/RE fan and you dislike Spider-man, but the video is the video. Just accept your little fabricated scenario here nets her a cracked skull.

Spider-man is faster and more agile. Close range, she can't compete. SS is like precog.


__________________


You've Just Been Kirked To The Curb

Last edited by Robtard on Nov 11th, 2009 at 07:07 AM

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 07:01 AM
Robtard is currently offline Click here to Send Robtard a Private Message Find more posts by Robtard Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Robtard
She starts at 4:13 and by 4:18 he's screaming, so, what I already said.

"You're right, it started to trickle after about 2 seconds; it took a 5-6 before he started to scream" -Robtard

13+5-6 = 18-19, I maybe went over a second. 5 seconds at close range is more than enough time for Spider-man to get on her shit and force her to defend/drop the TK or get her shit pushed in. I know you're an Alice/RE fan and you dislike Spider-man, but the video is the video. Just accept your little fabricated scenario here nets her a cracked skull.

Spider-man is faster and more agile. Close range, she can't compete. SS is like precog.
Dude, he comes at her, she is gonna TK him away, it's essentially superior to force push. She TK's him away, easily BTW, then draws her guns and blasts him.

She aint gonna black out TKing him away, he weighs maybe 150 soaking wet.


Also, how did Alice know the guard was there? Go ahead, I'll wait, this should be good.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 07:14 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Robtard
Senor Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Captain's Chair, CA

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, he comes at her, she is gonna TK him away, it's essentially superior to force push. She TK's him away, easily BTW, then draws her guns and blasts him.

She aint gonna black out TKing him away, he weighs maybe 150 soaking wet.


Also, how did Alice know the guard was there? Go ahead, I'll wait, this should be good.


Doubt she's that fast, as he's faster. Even then, Spider-man has shown in all three movies how he can web/web-attack while being airborne. He gets web on her, just a matter of yanking to send her flying.

Some sort of extra-sensory perception(probably has something to do with her telepathy); it's not precog, you silly bastard.


__________________


You've Just Been Kirked To The Curb

Last edited by Robtard on Nov 11th, 2009 at 07:23 AM

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 07:18 AM
Robtard is currently offline Click here to Send Robtard a Private Message Find more posts by Robtard Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Robtard
Doubt she's that fast, as he's faster. Even then, Spider-man has shown in all three movies how he can web/web-attack while being airborne. He gets web on her, just a matter of yanking to send her flying.

Some sort of extra-sensory perception(probably has something to do with her telepathy); it's not precog, you silly bastard.


If Spider comes at her, she uses her T.K. push him away, then shoots him or T.K.'s his head.

If Spidey tries to web her, she T.K.'s the webbing away, then shoots him or T.K.'s his head.

In Extinction, when Tyrant shoots his tentacles at her, she creates a T.K. wall, blocking them from getting to her. This took more effort than it will take to T.K. away the webbing, so webbing her is not an option here.

I dunno why this is even being discussed, she is far too powerful for him, he and his webbing will never get near her. Tell me, how does Spidey get around her T.K. powers?


Survey says......He doesn't.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 07:50 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Robtard
Senor Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Captain's Chair, CA

So now she's going to use TK to both push him away and block anything coming her way. This on top of you trying to work in that she somehow has Xavier-like telepathy and precog too. Why not just give her a lightsabre, sniper rifle and Sideswipe's blades, dude.

Spider-man's faster, stronger, more agile, more durable, has better reaction-time, Spider-sense and webbing. So no, just no.


__________________


You've Just Been Kirked To The Curb

Last edited by Robtard on Nov 11th, 2009 at 07:56 AM

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 07:53 AM
Robtard is currently offline Click here to Send Robtard a Private Message Find more posts by Robtard Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

Just no, just cuz, right?

He can't get past her T.K. powers, plain and simple, don't get butthurt about it. AND she has her guns to fall back on too.

No matter how you cut it, Alice wins this 10/10.

So again I ask, how will Spidey get past her T.K. powers?


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 07:58 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Robtard
Senor Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Captain's Chair, CA

I posted 7 reasons, in clear and easy print.

Already covered, he can react a lot faster and she can't just do everything and anything with the TK as you want to really, really, really believe. She tries to push him, she gets the web.


__________________


You've Just Been Kirked To The Curb

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:04 AM
Robtard is currently offline Click here to Send Robtard a Private Message Find more posts by Robtard Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

T.K. barrier, dude, it aint getting through. Nothing he attacks with is getting through. And the 7 reasons are null and void if he cannot get to her.

And again, she opens up with her guns, he jumps around dodging (as if), and at the same time she attacks with the T.K.

Easy cheesy, dead Spider.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:08 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Robtard
Senor Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Captain's Chair, CA

LoL, like I said, why not just give her a lightsabre.

Come back when you have a valid argument.


__________________


You've Just Been Kirked To The Curb

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:09 AM
Robtard is currently offline Click here to Send Robtard a Private Message Find more posts by Robtard Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

What's not valid about it? Her T.K. is too much for him, whatever he tries she will block it.

Face it, there are few that can beat her (Jean Grey, Dark Phoenix, Xavier), and Spidey aint one of them.


Third time now, how does Spidey get past her T.K powers? Second time now, he 7 reasons you listed are nullified if he cannot get past her T.K. powers.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:18 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Robtard
Senor Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Captain's Chair, CA

All you're doing (again) is scripting fights to show the outcome of your personal favorite. It's lame.

Look, I can do this same B.S. too: Alice goes for her guns, Spider-man uses his early warning system and far better reaction-time and agility to web/pull and punches her in the face. /the end


__________________


You've Just Been Kirked To The Curb

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:23 AM
Robtard is currently offline Click here to Send Robtard a Private Message Find more posts by Robtard Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

Scripting? How? I am stating fact, that her telekinetic powers are far too much for him. I ask you umpteen times how he gets past her telekinetic powers, and all you can say is that he is faster and stronger, shit like that, answers that mean nothing if he cannot GET TO HER.


Here's a few ways I see Spidey attacking:

1. He comes at her, fast and hard. What does she do? She puts up a T.K. barrier, preventing him from getting to her.....PWNED.

2. He tries to web her. What does she do? Again, she puts up a T.K. barrier and blocks the webbing.....PWNED.

3. He goes evasive as she opens up with the guns. What does she do? She T.K.'s his head.....PWNED.


It's not scripting, dude, it's acknowledging that whatever he comes with, it won't be enough. All the things I have said she can do, she did onscreen, fact.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:32 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Robtard


Look, I can do this same B.S. too: Alice goes for her guns, Spider-man uses his early warning system and far better reaction-time and agility to web/pull and punches her in the face. /the end
OK, I'll play. Alice puts up a T.K wall, SPider man can't get through, she brain rapes him.

Pwned.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:33 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Placidity
Chief Executive Officer

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Germany

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Also, how did Alice know the guard was there? Go ahead, I'll wait, this should be good.


Personally I think that feat is complete shit. Call it bad writing or whatever you want. That was a high level telekinetic/telepathic feat even Dark Phoenix probably couldn't do (Yes I think Vader's similar feat was also bullshit). It was a level of power that she never had, and never displayed again.

Funny that you bring this question up. Somehow she knew about the guard and exactly where he was, but when she exits the building you can tell she had no clue that there would be a group of armed men waiting.


__________________

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:35 AM
Placidity is currently offline Click here to Send Placidity a Private Message Find more posts by Placidity Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Placidity
Personally I think that feat is complete shit. Call it bad writing or whatever you want. That was a high level telekinetic/telepathic feat even Dark Phoenix probably couldn't do (Yes I think Vader's similar feat was also bullshit). It was a level of power that she never had, and never displayed again.

Funny that you bring this question up. Somehow she knew about the guard and exactly where he was, but when she exits the building you can tell she had no clue that there would be a group of armed men waiting.
Hey, a feat is a feat, regardless of the bullshit level. She displayed the level of power, therefore she has it. People get choked from halfway across he galaxy, bullets are bent in midair, Zohan defies gravity, shit happens.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:39 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Placidity
Chief Executive Officer

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Germany

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hey, a feat is a feat, regardless of the bullshit level. She displayed the level of power, therefore she has it. People get choked from halfway across he galaxy, bullets are bent in midair, Zohan defies gravity, shit happens.


Well, Zohan was a comedy, and swerving bullets was what the movie was about, theres a difference. Its a bullshit feat when the character pulls some crap out of their ass that is way beyond them - they've never done it before, they never do it again, and theres no explanation offered.

What happens when bullshit feats are accepted is people argue crap like the Predator being able to run faster than a speeding train. And I'm sure even you wouldn't use Vader's bullshit feat in a Vs topic (or would you?).


__________________

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:48 AM
Placidity is currently offline Click here to Send Placidity a Private Message Find more posts by Placidity Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Rogue Jedi
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: On my way to the Cage

Account Restricted

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Placidity
Well, Zohan was a comedy, and swerving bullets was what the movie was about, theres a difference. Its a bullshit feat when the character pulls some crap out of their ass that is way beyond them - they've never done it before, they never do it again, and theres no explanation offered.

What happens when bullshit feats are accepted is people argue crap like the Predator being able to run faster than a speeding train. And I'm sure even you wouldn't use Vader's bullshit feat in a Vs topic (or would you?).
If a character displays a certain power onscreen, even if it is out there and shown only once, then yes, I will use it.


__________________

All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:50 AM
Rogue Jedi is currently offline Click here to Send Rogue Jedi a Private Message Find more posts by Rogue Jedi Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Placidity
Chief Executive Officer

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Germany

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If a character displays a certain power onscreen, even if it is out there and shown only once, then yes, I will use it.


Ok then. I can't really argue you on this because there is no rule against bullshit feats, but its more of a loophole than justification. But I will quote you and hold this against you next time the situation fits me!!!

BTW, shouldn't you be voting for Neo in the other topic? He should be able to go bullet time with ease.


__________________

Old Post Nov 11th, 2009 08:58 AM
Placidity is currently offline Click here to Send Placidity a Private Message Find more posts by Placidity Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 05:22 PM.
Pages (4): « 1 2 [3] 4 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Movies » Movie Discussion » Movie Versus Forum » Spider-Man vs. Alice

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.