Because H/P Doomsday was stronger than Superman and he got put down by the Omega Beams. No matter how briefly. Orion and Firestorm Got put down by nothing but some kind of energy wave. Darkside's Omega effect wiped out someone who was tuffer than Superman effortlessly. Unless you think Superman can take on Orion and Lightray at the same time like Agog did. That means Superman's wankage by DC makes him a silly measuring stick to use against DS. Superman has had it tuff against Kalibak and Mantis, Both of whom DS owns with the greatest of ease.
No he hasn't. He had a hard time fighting both of them. DS ***** slaps Kalibak and Mantis. As I stated Superman has had a hard time with Orion where as DS just owns him. That means one has to use some common sense. Superman does well against villains he shouldn't. Especially given his performance against Other heroes and villains against those same heroes.
orion is to darkseid what drax is to thanos. darkseid is never going to straight up embarass orion in a proper fight.
superman is powerful enough to justify doing well against the people he fights, including darkseid. sure, darkseid engages in fisticuffs when he shouldnt, but that's his problem, not superman's.
I'm going to have to just disagree with you. Darkside will embarrass Orion. He has. He did it in Firestorm's book. He's done it for years unless I missed a few issues here and there.
I do dislike forum Superman however.....and wanking. But i hate wanking of pretty much any character.
It just so happens that Superman gets wanked more than any other, so it appears i hate him the most.
I am in your algorithm learning all your mannerisms
I'm already level with God
A million words a second and I know your imperfections, baby
I'm the only future you've got
Speak in diatonics, motivation diabolic
I'm like a religion, better locked in a box
Picture perfect image, more powerful every minute, baby
I am everything that you're not
I am in your algorithm learning all your mannerisms
I'm already level with God
A million words a second and I know your imperfections, baby
I'm the only future you've got
Speak in diatonics, motivation diabolic
I'm like a religion, better locked in a box
Picture perfect image, more powerful every minute, baby
I am everything that you're not
Damn people, is it really hard to believe i like the character but am supremely skeptical of the forum wanking his powerset gets in comparison to other characters?