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TheKahn
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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Many characters give other characters "problems" but the early ones aren't going to be doing any majority against him especially with a team mate. They can still be hurt, ko'ed, knocked back, or incapacitated. Many characters in comics have healing factors, doesn't make them unstoppable by any means.

I'm talking about the early ones mainly. Distraction right into webbing.


That's certainly a viable tactic. My only concern their offensive capacity as compared to the durability of Spiderman and his allies. A single hit from the one of gauntlet may be crippling while the opposite isn't really true, imo.


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Gorgon perception it seem when compared to normal people, plus crazy bullet deflecting feat
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Gorgon showing a speedstir named Yo-Yo just how fast he is

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Seem very unlikely to assume he going to get webbed at all let a lone for a majority.

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
No to this extent nor displayed this consistenly. He not a character with hundreds of apearances. he character with 20 and each time he shown with this crazy level of speed.


Does not matter when the object moves vastly slower then bullets espcially machine gun ones.


Taskmaster already showed us how easy it is to cut webbing, it far fetch to assume a guy with the level of skill, speed and reflexes as well as telepathy that Gorgon showed that he gunna get webbed up espicialy considering the people spiderman has failed to webb like shang-chi, DD, capt ect.


Yea, and firehoses and flamethrowers are often used in situations where it is hard to be accurate because of suppression and spam ability, bullets are so useless on the forum man, everybody dodges them, everyone. It's not even anything new. Spiderman has webbed fast characters before who have dodged the bullets, he has punched people who have dodged bullets and his webbing is slower than him....

You can cut a bit of it but more of it can overflow your body, it isn't a hard substance until it is set, it flows.

Of course he isn't going to web another hero in a crossover match too often instantly, it would be an early fight. He has the speed to do so and he is faster than DD, Capt, Shang, and his webbing is much stronger than them too. He really only needs to get one limb and remove their leverage.

He did web Daken. big grin And he has webbed other fast characters too.

I'm not saying it is *easy* by any means, but it isn't impossible and Spiderman has had thousands of showings of him using it, and for it to be said he can't do it with a person fighting up close giving the opponent trouble isn't being very fair.


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Gorgon perception it seem when compared to normal people, plus crazy bullet deflecting feat
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Seem very unlikely to assume he going to get webbed at all let a lone for a majority.
I never said how many times he could do it. big grin but he can.

Spiderman has dodged rain before in a light storm, that's about as good as it gets with Meta level dodging.


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Many street levelers do speed of thought feats, and remember webbing isn't like bullets, it is more like water from a fire hose, it spreads.

Now which is easier to hit someone with, something that spreads or something that doesn't?

Not to mention he will be fighting someone else to occupy him, if even for a few seconds. Not saying it is easy, but it is possible. He has to have the leverage to cut and swords are long and the leverage points are different.


Gorgon is faster than Spidey.

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Gorgon is faster than Spidey.

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So now we go back to using stats when they work for us and not when they don't? I'll keep that in mind with Wolverine.

Ok... current stats... not saying I agree with everything presented but it doesn't seem *too* bad.

Spiderman:
http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-M...Peter_Parker%29

Gorgon:
http://marvel.com/universe/Gorgon_%28Tomi_Shishido%29

Has Spiderman higher at current.

But using the typical "feat" argument, his feats don't triump Spiderman's at all.

But on my opinion, I think it is really close, Gorgon and Spiderman utilize different movements. Spiderman is more air based than Gorgan and more acrobatic, where Gorgon is more ground based.


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Overall, Spidey just isn't equipped to deal with most of Wolverine's opponents, imo. He needs more offensive capability and a great deal more durability.


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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Many street levelers do speed of thought feats, and remember webbing isn't like bullets, it is more like water from a fire hose, it spreads.

Now which is easier to hit someone with, something that spreads or something that doesn't?

Not to mention he will be fighting someone else to occupy him, if even for a few seconds. Not saying it is easy, but it is possible. He has to have the leverage to cut and swords are long and the leverage points are different.


are you on crack or something? 5 people were shooting machine gun fire at gorgon at the same time and he was diflecting all that with 1 arm are you crazy? you are trying to compare spider-man webbing to that????? GTFO of here

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Overall, Spidey just isn't equipped to deal with most of Wolverine's opponents, imo. He needs more offensive capability and a great deal more durability.
Wolverine and Spiderman's opponents would give each other a tough time, not mentioning joke characters.

Sabes gives him a fight, Daken would lose the majority, so would LD, Omega Red would Win.

The ones Spiderman would lose too, Wolverine would lose too, pretty much like Classic Venom and Carnage.

The thing comes in with his speed and dodging, his offense is find for the lower end of Wolverine's villains and webbing works fine too.


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are you on crack or something? 5 people were shooting machine gun fire at gorgon at the same time and he was diflecting all that with 1 arm are you crazy? you are trying to compare spider-man webbing to that????? GTFO of here
Are you a troll or something? Oh right you are, I have something special for that, stupidity can't be treated normally, it has to be put out.

I won't even waste too much of my time owning and humiliating you thoroughly before you get banned. Bullets job all the time, it's not even up for discussion. You'd better ask somebody. Now a quick lesson:

And no I wasn't trying to compare webbing to that, see if you had an IQ of over 40 you would have realize the difference between a comparison and a contrast.

Let me help you.

Contrast: to compare in order to show unlikeness or differences; note the opposite natures, purposes, etc., of: Contrast the political rights of Romans and Greeks.

Now that *that* is out of the way I thought you would know the difference between something that spreads and doesn't have a consistent structure compared to something that does. Not to mention webbing stays there and can be snared. Many difference, does that penetrate your thick skull enough?

Here let this help. Spiderman has caught a bullet before, he's dodged one *after* it's been fired.

Check this out numbskull.... bullets are so good they can't hit Gambit either (note, to walk you through, isn't quite as fast as Spiderman, nor does he have his exotic abilities), never mind many conventional high velocity bullets are faster than sound.

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But oh wait, we all know that hand speed is faster than body movement speed, that's obvious, so using that same instrument Gambit could do the same! eek!


Oh wait, there's more...

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Look at the reaction time and precision used to web bullets as they travel *in* mid air, he actually aimed and did it, not just twirl something around.

Man, I need to start posting feats more often, I forgot how dumb most people are... oh wait...

Lightning is light speed right, well he dodges that too, that is much more impressive than sound speed right? Right? I mean hey it happened...

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Gone before the shot goes there...

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Now if your reading comprehension worked well enough to realize how much of a fool you made of yourself, maybe you'd see my argument wasn't even Spiderman stomping Gorgon or anything of the sort, I said that in my first post. I was arguing something else.

Now sit down when grown folks are talking.


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Lightning is light speed right, well he dodges that too, that is much more impressive than sound speed right? Right? I mean hey it happened...

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Not canon.


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Not canon.


Plus lightning doesn't travel at the speed of light. The Guinness Book of Answers indicates a maximum speeds around 87,000 miles per second or 313,000,000 mph if my math isn't too rusty (roughly half the speed of light). Not that it matters much with Spiderman given the advanced warning his spider-sense gives him.


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Plus lightning doesn't travel at the speed of light. The Guinness Book of Answers indicates a maximum speeds around 87,000 miles per second or 313,000,000 mph if my math isn't too rusty (roughly half the speed of light). Not that it matters much with Spiderman given the advanced warning his spider-sense gives him.


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who said it was christian god?

Just said that god exists, there are many gods. Though TOAA is generaly consider god.

God is the Christian God. I don't see TOAA being all ol' Testament on Earth.


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God is the Christian God. I don't see TOAA being all ol' Testament on Earth.


I know a lot of Hindus, Muslims, Jews, and Wiccans who would disagree with you on that.


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Spider-Man talked with God shifty


Never mention that era of Spiderman's history again What the f**k?












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Spider-Man talked with God shifty


Spider-man gave God a good advice smile


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What's that?


Brand New Day. It follows One More Day were [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Spiderman and MJ made a deal with Mephisto sick


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