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When Palpatine wants to attack with lightning, it takes him a second to do so, both in the ROTJ and ROTS. He doesn't have to wave a wand and utter a spell. He also has his Force-speed and precog helping him on-top of that plus.

The three curses can get through a shield charm, HP-Wiki. But it's a moot point, Potter be lite up before he can raise any defense.

Again, Palpatine can attack faster with lightning than Potter can cast a spell, keep ignoring this.

Mhm, and none of those curses are in Palpy's arsenal. Nice try though. BTW nothing showed up on your link, but since Palpy has no cursing power, my point stands.

No, he is slow as hell in ROTJ, Harry is much faster casting Protego than Palpy is with force lightning, not to mention that Harry can likely block the attack, as he did the magical attacks in OOTP.

Stop with the force speed, he displayed no force speed in ROTJ, you're reaching now.


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With you riding the gimp-horse at full trot, Voldemort would beat Palpatine, yes.

Going by screen feats, na.
Dude, stop. Voledmort is superior to Palpy in every possible way, if Palpy is a fragmentation grenade, Voldy is a ****ing Atom bomb. It's the biggest mismatch of all time.


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Mhm, and none of those curses are in Palpy's arsenal. Nice try though.

No, he is slow as hell in ROTJ, Harry is much faster casting Protego than Palpy is with force lightning, not to mention that Harry can likely block the attack, as he did the magical attacks in OOTP.

Stop with the force speed, he displayed no force speed in ROTJ, you're reaching now.


Nice dodge, my point was that powerful enough spells can get through the shield(you said nothing could) and Palpatine is one powerful guy.

No, it takes him a second to attack with lightning, when he wants to attack with it.

He had it in ROTS, when he attacked Mace and the other four Jedi. So he has force-speed and agility. Let me guess, it went away?

Anyhow, Potter dies via lightning before he can fully cast a spell, you have nothing to counter this. He maybe gets to say "Prot...", then he's fried.


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Dude, stop. Voledmort is superior to Palpy in every possible way, if Palpy is a fragmentation grenade, Voldy is a ****ing Atom bomb. It's the biggest mismatch of all time.


Really, what has Voldemort done on screen that makes him an atom bomb?


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Really, what has Voldemort done on screen that makes him an atom bomb?
Apparition, Fiendfyre, Hocruxes. talking to and controlling snakes. He can do all Palpy can do and then some, then alot more.


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Harry raises his wand and points it at Palpy while taking a breath so he can say which spell he wishes to use a against Palpy.

Harry is fried by Force Lightning into extra crispy recipe before he can exhale.

By Palpy.


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Apparition, Fiendfyre, Hocruxes. talking to and controlling snakes. He can do all Palpy can do and then some, then alot more.
Mutha****in' speed blitz, baby. Palpatine stomps Voldemort and makes him his b*tch. cool

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Apparition, Fiendfyre, Hocruxes. talking to and controlling snakes. He can do all Palpy can do and then some, then alot more.


Except, just like in this fight, Palpatine can attack faster with lighting than Voldermort can cast a spell. So Voldemort goes down screaming and pissing his knickers too.

"Controlling snakes" was a LoL.


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Palpy would do to Voldy with the Force what Freddy did to Jason is FvJ.

At 1:20, specifically.


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BTW, Palpy did, in fact use Force TK when he killed Windu in Episode III.


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Palpy would do to Voldy with the Force what Freddy did to Jason is FvJ.

At 1:20, specifically.

wink That's my favorite scene from an ANOES film.

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Nice dodge, my point was that powerful enough spells can get through the shield(you said nothing could) and Palpatine is one powerful guy.

No, it takes him a second to attack with lightning, when he wants to attack with it.

He had it in ROTS, when he attacked Mace and the other four Jedi. So he has force-speed and agility. Let me guess, it went away?

Anyhow, Potter dies via lightning before he can fully cast a spell, you have nothing on this. He maybe gets to say "Prot...", then he's fried.
Yes, but the force and HP magic are two entirely different things. If certain magic can get past a shield charm, why didn't Voldemort simply blast away the shield charms surrounding Hogwarts in THBP? Hmm? Hey, in GOF, Harry went toe to toe with Voldy. Remember when their wands were locked, neither able to seize the advantage? Lookie, at 1:47, Harry blocks Voldemorts Avada Kedavra.



He utters Expelliarmus, then MAYBE a half second later, his red beam is locked with Voldemorts green one. So much for the speed argument. Harry is officially faster with his spells than Palpy is with force lightning in ROTJ, there is no questioning this.

How fast was he with his force lightning attacks in ROTJ? slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow......thats what we go by, his ROTJ feats.

Mace and those 4 Jedi, they were in ROTS, not ROTJ. Screen feats, dude, from ROTJ.


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Except, just like in this fight, Palpatine can attack faster with lighting than Voldermort can cast a spell. So Voldemort goes down screaming and pissing his knickers too.

"Controlling snakes" was a LoL.
No, Voldy would apparate around like Nightcrawler and attack Palpy from where Palpy cant see him. Palpy would have no chance.


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BTW, Palpy did, in fact use Force TK when he killed Windu in Episode III.
Not a ROTJ screen feat, dude. You made the rule, adhere to it.


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Not a ROTJ screen feat, dude. You made the rule, adhere to it.


At what time and place did I ever mention ROTJ?

I said "throne room on the Death Star".


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Harry raises his wand and points it at Palpy while taking a breath so he can say which spell he wishes to use a against Palpy.

Harry is fried by Force Lightning into extra crispy recipe before he can exhale.

By Palpy.
Watch the vid I posted, man. Harry is way faster. For the umpteenth time, shield charms pwn force lightning, why do you keep ignoring this? I figured you of all people here would be objective.


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He utters Expelliarmus, then MAYBE a half second later, his red beam is locked with Voldemorts green one. So much for the speed argument. Harry is officially faster with his spells than Palpy is with force lightning in ROTJ, there is no questioning this.

How fast was he with his force lightning attacks in ROTJ? slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow......thats what we go by, his ROTJ feats.

Mace and those 4 Jedi, they were in ROTS, not ROTJ. Screen feats, dude, from ROTJ.
You're forgetting that Force users move faster than the eye can see, and we are only watching them in slow motion.

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At what time and place did I ever mention ROTJ?

I said "throne room on the Death Star".
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA The throne room and the death star were in ROTJ, it's implied. You made the OP, you implied ROTJ Palpy, and now that I am proving you wrong at every turn, you're "moving the goalposts." First you gimp Harry, then you move he goalposts. Nice job, Mr. Moderator thumb down

Screen feats prove Harry wins this, despite your best efforts to tie his hands behind his back.

I'm out, I've proven without a doubt that Harry wins here, but it is all being ignored..

Have fun breaking the rules that you yourself are supposed to enforce. big grin


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For the umpteenth time, shield charms pwn force lightning


Prove it. I see no evidence as such.


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AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA The throne room and the death star were in ROTJ, it's implied. You made the OP, you implied ROTJ Palpy, and now that I am proving you wrong at every turn, you're "moving the goalposts." First you gimp Harry, then you move he goalposts. Nice job, Mr. Moderator thumb down

Screen feats prove Harry wins this, despite your best efforts to tie his hands behind his back.

I'm out, I've proven without a doubt that Harry wins here, but it is all being ignored..

Have fun breaking the rules that you yourself are supposed to enforce. big grin


1. The Death Star was in all 3 OT films. The Death Star has a throne room. I implied nothing at all. I stated exactly what I meant. Case closed, Sherlock.

2, You have proven nothing wrong except you have a serious problem with Harry Potter stroking.

3. I have, in no way gimped Harry Potter. He has his wand, and Palpy has The Force. Accept it. You can do it.

4. I haven't moved any goal posts, as you so immaturely put it. You lack tact when trying to have a fun debate.

5. There have been no screen feats that have "proven anything" that justifies your claim. That is why we are having a debate over it. Nothing is being ignored.

6. I am breaking no rules. You're just butthurt.

7. I would give you an official warning for such inflammatory remarks, but, since I have let people get away with worse (AC, Rob, and Sadako, to name a few) I won't. All I am going to say is don't ever do it again.

8. If you dont like my actions as a moderator, hence the junior high-ish thumbs down, then stay the hell out of the MVF.


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