well redhotrash, Poc is a low level telekinetic and a powerful energy manipulator he should be able to temporarily frazzle supermans motor neuron function long enough to stop him and form a force-field around his brain. Apocalypse's tp can help stun superman, after alll he is a more powerful telepath than Max Lord.
There are many showings of Poc working with energy and Forcefields to support the claim
If u have something to add, then please do. Its a fact that Crucifer would have killed Diana if it weren't for the Amazons healing her. Even after that she could barely get up and stand. If you have something to add to this then by all means go to the WW vs Apoc thread.
As soon as Diana touches Apoc, APoc would merge hes body with her.
Uh, I take it whoever wrote the spear thing forgot that Diana had a healing factor? Or bracers? And presumably it was enchanted too, it's not like Diana isn't tough enough to take very major stab wounds even if they cause some bleeding. Not to mention that it's from a storyline with famous PIS (vampires normally burst into flame when drinking Superman's blood).
Not to mention that we're ignoring the large speed gap between the two characters and assuming that even "if" he'd be able to pierce her skin, he'd also be able to get past her defenses.
CIS is on, Diana wont be fighting apoc at the fashion that you all are stating and Superman wont either. I could see Apoc pulling some wins, but the majority, no. If he use those excellent powers that he has at his possession the way that they are suppose to be used, he should be able to f*** Superman up but we all know that he wont.
By the way, whatever powers he think of, he can have and he has shown this on numerous of occasions.
Superman 7/10 due to apoc being a moron. Hell, even wolverine took out an avatar of apocalypse that had the same powers as him.
While Kent is wailing on Pocl Nur could kill Superman on the astral plane then possess the kryptonian.
I mean we've all seen J-Poc possess people with strong resistence to telepathy several times. Non Jobber should be able to at least stun Supes momentarily with his psionics.
Once stunned poc could phase his hand into supermans neck then make it solid.
Apocalypse can regenerate a hand. Superman can't regenerate a neck.
Yup, Max' stuff did not happen over night. Notice that this hold could not be broken and was far, far, far stronger than something he could/would have accomplished by wrestling control over Clark's psyche. This is neither a testament to Clark's weakness to telepathy, nor is it an incident that proves a telepath would need years to gain control. What Max did was gain -absolute- control, and like he told Diana, it could not be broken.
Will only matters in mind control though, there are better ways for telepaths to win fights. I guess it's hard to say that any defense or offense is a sure method considering how many different ways telepathy has been depicted over the years. Like I said, Maxwell Lord's incident doesn't help or harm Superman here. Just like it does not help or harm any telepath.
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