I think the argument is that he will need to concentrate in order to keep the shields up against WW's assault. You can agree or disagree with that.
Loki seems like exactly the kind of god WW would do very well against. She was the goddess of truth herself. Countless battles with Circe would help her on the magical front. She wouldn't be able to kill him permanently but she could take him down in a battle.
ok let's have it this way...if he can hold his shields enough to summon allies against her or cast some powerful spell (remember he could affect skyfather beings before) he wins. If he does need to concentrate and she keeps him off balance she gets the win.
I assume (*hope*) Spire is just being sarcastic; Kurse, Thor, Beta-Ray, and a couple others are more than capable of giving WW a run for her money. Even the FF, whom I gave as losing generally, could get some wins via massive team-work. Diana does well in this list, overall, but by no means stomps. (Except for poor Petey... I mean, seriously... that was just cruel...)
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Both the bracers and the lasso aid in resisting magical effects, when employed properly (so while useful, they don't provide an auto-protect, by any means; it's definitely a case of her utilizing some of her more secondary powersets).
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So err, another possible tactic for Loki: he's used his magic to control Thor's hammer before. That's essentially overriding Odin's enchantment on it. Any reason he wouldn't be able to effect the accuracy of Diana's lasso throws?
Considering Diana is much faster and more agile, what does Kurse do when he's immobilized via the lasso? The second she realizes she's facing a foe with superior physical capabilities than hers, she's going to switch things up.
Me too. I don't think she gets a majority over every single person on this list (namely Thor and BRB), but she has the powers, skills, and equipment to potentially clear it. I don't see how people are claiming she doesn't stand a chance in hell against any single person here.
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Tideoftime's list is pretty good, except I, like you, would give the nod to Thor and BRB instead of the split he gives them. And also, I'd give Firelord a majority over Diana but Diana the overwhelming majority against Terrax.
Honestly, I have always teetered back and forth about Firelord/Terrax; I have seen good arguements/listings in other threads/forums concerning them, and nobody seems to readily agree on defining one above the other, as such. I suppose I could go either way, really; I just went with Firelord losing by a narrow margin, as opposed to Terrax, based on consensus arguements, at least in relation to WW.
And as far as BRB/Thor -- I suppose I should have been more clear: the fight with either of them is going to be long, dragged out, and horrendous; the "split" I see happening is because, while WW being defeated by either is certainly a given in many fights, her ability to subdue an opponent via the lasso, or take an opponent down with her in death via her weapons (especially her tiara-throw, which is capable of killing gods, as it is a god-weapon) can make the odds a bit fuzzy. I did a descriptive spread in one of the other threads with her and Thor in it, and while I listed it as a 5/10 split, the details behind those individual numbers made it more than a simple math equation (eg: Diana died in at least 3 of the battles, including a battle in which she "won", but would die afterwards from her wounds/god-injuries. I also gave other descriptions, as well).
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Yeah, I can understand the Firelord issue anyway. Kril kind of gets underrated, but he's held his own and/or beat both Thor and SS. Overheated both of them, in fact (and both Thor and SS have durability enough to stand inside of stars and the like.) Seems like Diana has a bit of a weakness for heat and electricity, so for Firelord I'd give the slight nod to him.
Terrax, though, is a friggin' disaster. I can't say anything positive about him other than IMO at least he would die quickly if he faced Diana.
Also, **** Terrax.
BRB and Thor just pack so much more raw power than Diana (planet shattering blows both physically and via energy blasts) it's hard to even give her a split against them to me. And recently we've got BRB fighting with SS at at least near-light speeds, probably FTL speeds (Godhunter), so the speed argument becomes dubious for her.
As does the ace-in-the-hole tiara throw. Unless she's close when she throws it and strikes perfectly, it's not working. I mean also recently Thor was slashed in the face by Wolverine's claws and it did virtually nothing thanks to his 'thick Asgardian skin'. Not the same as Diana's tiara, but its a rough analogue. And then there's his very quick reflexes, especially with Mjolnir...such as, for example, when he blocks a blast from Rachel-Phoenix almost instantly.
The descriptive spread sounds like an interesting read.
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