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Colossus kinda tooled him in the first fight:

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Venom has to be stronger than Class 40 in his larger incarnations.


And he still ended up choking on his own blood laughing


That's entirely possible. Didn't Worldmind warn Nova of Venom's "massive superhuman strength"?

That being said, he still got raped by American Eagle who according to Marvel Database is Class 15.

BTW, how many times Piotr yelled "Madness!" in Fraction's run?


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Namor could take em all at the same time

He would simply get a bit dusted in the process
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Originally posted by rotiart
Submariner vs
1. Spiderman during his symbiote days
2. Brock
3. Mac gargan
4. All three

they fight on manhattan after namor has just gottenout of the water
no further sea dips allowed


Why does spiderman have to be "during his symbiote days" -when Pete had the symbiote it didn't enhance his powers whatsover.
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It's a common misconception. Stupid cartoon.


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Why does spiderman have to be "during his symbiote days" -when Pete had the symbiote it didn't enhance his powers whatsover.
yes it did...it made him far more durable and increased his stamina


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yes it did...it made him far more durable and increased his stamina


NO IT DIDN'T!
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NO IT DIDN'T!
when he had the suit, he was basically bulletproof, plus he had more energy


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when he had the suit, he was basically bulletproof, plus he had more energy
That was Ult Spider-man. 616 the symbiote didnt physically enhance him in any way. Parker was just wearing it as cloth.


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when he had the suit, he was basically bulletproof, plus he had more energy


You obviously never read the Spiderman comics from that period. For a start, instead of giving Spiderman more energy, it left him physically drained. This extra "durability" you speak of didn't prevent Peter from dislocating one of his arms when he stopped himself from falling in his 1st encounter with Puma. I don't recall the costume repelling bullets until it was worn by Eddie Brock.
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That was Ult Spider-man. 616 the symbiote didnt physically enhance him in any way. Parker was just wearing it as cloth.
he manhandled rhino after getting it no expression


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he manhandled rhino after getting it no expression
Is it possible that you're talking about the cartoon series fro the 90's? BTW Spidey knocked Rhino out even without that symbiote costume.


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he manhandled rhino after getting it no expression


That was the 90's cartoon- it has no bearing on 616 continuity.
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That was the 90's cartoon- it has no bearing on 616 continuity.
it was accurate though...all the characters were the same

it just showed how spiderman would be in modern era with the symbiote


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So Spider-Man can't even lift a truck without an amp? eek!


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So Spider-Man can't even lift a truck without an amp? eek!
depends on the truck..some trucks weigh over 10 tons


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it was accurate though...all the characters were the same

it just showed how spiderman would be in modern era with the symbiote


616 continuity is what counts in this thread (the thread starter didn't say it was movie or 90's cartoon symbiote Spidey) and in 616 continuity the symbiote didn't enhance Pete's powers at all.
As accurate as the 90's cartoon was, it wasn't 100% true to the comic-the symbiote enhancing Spiderman's power was a concept that the cartoon gave birth too. Since that cartoon all film/tv versions of Spiderman, which have him wearing the symbiote, portray it as increasing his power.
However, as I have repeatedly said, in main 616 Marvel continuity, which is what counts in this thread, the symbiote had no more effect on Spiderman's power than the cloth version which Black Cat knitted for him.
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616 continuity is what counts in this thread (the thread starter didn't say it was movie or 90's cartoon symbiote Spidey) and in 616 continuity the symbiote didn't enhance Pete's powers at all.
As accurate as the 90's cartoon was, it wasn't 100% true to the comic-the symbiote enhancing Spiderman's power was a concept that the cartoon gave birth too. Since that cartoon all film/tv versions of Spiderman, which have him wearing the symbiote, portray it as increasing his power.
However, as I have repeatedly said, in main 616 Marvel continuity, which is what counts in this thread, the symbiote had no more effect on Spiderman's power than the cloth version which Black Cat knitted for him.
the symbiote has evolved

if spidey got the symbiote today, he would get boosted


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the symbiote has evolved

if spidey got the symbiote today, he would get boosted


Do you have proof of this? I haven't seen any. The only physical effect I saw the symbiote have on Spiderman was making him constantly tired.
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Pretty sure OP meant classic symbiote SM.

Yeah, it'd more than likely boost him now.


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depends on the truck..some trucks weigh over 10 tons


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