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i like how someone keeps referring to the novel to defend twilight rather then sticking to movie feats only..

either way i read all of anne rice's books and if we want to use novel feats as well then by all means lets.

akasha can burn vamps from a distance like miles away while flying over the tundra...

also her telepathy allows her to sense and see vamps from continents away
her skin an all the ancient vamps also have marble hard skin and akasha can still incinerate them..

she was only vulnerable to physical harm when she lowers her resistance and durability.


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lulz. Um, difference between QOTD and Twilight, is that QOTD didn't directly transfer it's vampire abilities over from the books... Twilight movie vamps on the other hand, have every single power they had in the books.

Again, when it comes to twilight, that "use only feats seen onscreen" rule, is such bullshit. If you really wanna go there, we can resume this discussion on July 1st after Eclipse comes out and Jane's brother has been shown using his power. Jane's brother was in New Moon, he didn't use his power on screen, but it still existed at the time.


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Seems like a lot of pro-Twinklight bias going on in this thread. If novel powers are to be used, then use them for both sides.


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thats not fair rub tart we cant use novel akasha feats b/c she was a planetary threat on her own...

we can only use onesided pro twilight bias here


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you are completely missing the point.

Akasha in the MOVIE... is not the same Akasha from the book.
Jane in the MOVIE... is exactly the same Jane from the book.

By giving Akasha powers she has in the book, you'd be violating the rules you love to cite so much. Jane (and the other twilight vamps) are EXACTLY the same in book and movie form. Do you honestly not understand this? Anyway, if you wanna seriously discount their abilities until they have been seen onscreen, I shall stfu and wait until July 1st.


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What powers have I given Akasha from the book? The powers I quote are all from the movie.


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What powers have I given Akasha from the book? The powers I quote are all from the movie.
not talking about you, RJ. I'm talking about Robtard and Wild Shadow, the two morons who wanna give Akasha additional abilities; abilities she had in the books, but not in the movie.

They don't seem to understand that, while Akasha was based on the Anne Rice character, the movie version of her, didn't possess the same powers. Unlike QOTD vamps, Twilight movie vamps share everything in common with their book counterparts.

Also, it's not bias 'cause I friggin' hate twilight, but I'm not about to make shit up or pretend facts don't exist, just so they can lose. You people are hilarious.

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not talking about you, RJ. I'm talking about Robtard and Wild Shadow, the two morons who wanna give Akasha additional abilities; abilities she had in the books, but not in the movie.

They don't seem to understand that, while Akasha was based on the Anne Rice character, the movie version of her, didn't possess the same powers. Unlike QOTD vamps, Twilight movie vamps share everything in common with their book counterparts.

Also, it's not bias 'cause I friggin' hate twilight, but I'm not about to make shit up or pretend facts don't exist, just so they can lose. You people are hilarious.
I saw New Moon twice, I can't remember Jane using the pain thing on Ed. I was drunk though


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I saw New Moon twice, I can't remember Jane using the pain thing on Ed. I was drunk though



were you drunk both times you saw new moon? big grin


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Not all the way.


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so who are we giving the majority to?


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Akasha solos, dude.


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Easy victory for the Twilight vamps only because of Precog from Alice.


Remove Alice and then we have a competition.


Seriously, remove her, please.



Take her away and Jane still causes the Queen trouble, just by herself. We don't know how far Jane's pain thingie goes as an upper limit is not seen in the movie. In book 4, we see her doing her pain thing from about 50 yards out. That's farther than any fire projection that QOTD does. Movie 4 isn't out yet so it doesn't count. Nor does movie 3.


However, none of that matters since Alice will see the Queen decide to attack, and how she will attack.


I fully believe that the Queen will be able to set fire and kill the Twilight vamps, with ease, despite how much stronger, faster, and better "sensed" they are than any QOTD vampires are (minus the queen her self.) But how will the queen do jack when she's on the ground, writhing in absurd pain? How will she be able to do jack when, no matter what she decides and how she decides to do it, Alice will see it if it involves anyone she knows? Not even the Volturi could get a drop on the Cullens. So how is the QOTD suposed to get a drop on the Cullens or anyone that knows Alice when Vampires with specific abilities to track across the globe, can't get a drop?


Remove Alice from the equation and we have a fight. I could argue for and against the Queen if we remove Alice...but there's no chance for the Queen as long as Alice is around.


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How does Alice seeing the future help? Maybe if she saw it before the fight happens they could avoid the fight altogether, but read the OP.

If Alice sees Akasha frying the Twivamps left and right, sure, she can run, but Akasha will fly after and kill her.


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Queen of the damned wins because Twilight is gay


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How does Alice seeing the future help?

Maybe if she saw it before the fight happens they could avoid the fight altogether, but read the OP.

If Alice sees Akasha frying the Twivamps left and right, sure, she can run, but Akasha will fly after and kill her.


If you knew when a person would attack, where they would attack, and how they would attack, it wouldn't help you at all?


You love scripting out fights. You know the power sets. Script out what would happen if the Queen was predicted and her powers fully known before the attack?


You do know that as people make decisions, Alice's visions change, right? All they have to do is start "prepping" and as they prep, Alice's visions change and she can see if their intentions will change the future. It's simple permutation until they get it perfect without anyone dying. The end of book four, which isn't a movie yet, does this even better than she does it in 1, 2, and 3, but the first three films are more than enough.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
If you knew when a person would attack, where they would attack, and how they would attack, it wouldn't help you at all?


You love scripting out fights. You know the power sets. Script out what would happen if the Queen was predicted and her powers fully known before the attack?


You do know that as people make decisions, Alice's visions change, right? All they have to do is start "prepping" and as they prep, Alice's visions change and she can see if their intentions will change the future. It's simple permutation until they get it perfect without anyone dying. The end of book four, which isn't a movie yet, does this even better than she does it in 1, 2, and 3, but the first three films are more than enough.


Yeah, Alice's presight is so perfect that all she saw was Bella jumping off a cliff, thinking she was committing suicide. Why didn't she also see that Bella was only cliff diving?

Why didn't she see Bella cutting her finger on the gift?

Shall I go on?


Anyhoo, so Alice knows Akasha's powers. It's only natural that the QOTD vampires would know of the Twivamps powers too.

QOTD vampires are just as fast as the Twivamps. dude. They can react just as fast in battle. Akasha, knowing that she's the key, is gonna fry any Twivamp that gets close to her. She can target 5 and 6 at a time without even looking at them.

So yeah, battle begins, Akasha lights up the Twivamps like the fourth of July.


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Alice' powers don't work when werewolves are involved, that explains the cliff diving thing. As for the finger cutting... PIS. lulz.


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