carver9
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Pr; if you join this session thinking I'm only saying this version of Hulk can beat only Superman, I also think he can beat Doomsday, Thor, Gladiator, (not Silver Surfer, to versatile), Orion, Wonder Woman, Beta Ray Bill, and the list goes on.
I would go as far to say that this version of Hulk can beat Warrior madness Thor.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:01 PM
Black bolt z
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I am basing it off of who is more stronger and World breaker Hulk is physically more stronger than Sun Dip Superman.
Superman isnt untouchable either and I cant see this version of Supes taking too many blows from this version of WWH.
Thats why he doesn't get hit.
Physically WBH is stronger but thats all your basing it off of.Add any other powers and superman wins.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:01 PM
kgkg
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
No one, now answer this, who has Superman ever fought that is as strong as this Hulk without getting one shotted?
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:02 PM
iceman24567
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Its much similar because neither of us have any kind of evidence to prove our case. I cant show you WWH doing this just like you cant show me Superman punching a thousand times before someone reacted. You cant even show me him punching a 100 times or 50 times before someone had the chance to react.
The only reason I claim that Superman would get one shotted is because of his showings against people weaker than this version of Hulk (Despero, Titus, Konvikt). Now the question is, how much more powerful is Sun Dip Superman over Regular Superman?
If you provide some proof of Sun Dip Superman being>>>>>>>>Regular Supes, then I would believe you.
Sundipped Superman doesn't need to be >>>>>>>> Normal Superman to beat this Hulk a couple >>> will do
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iceman24567
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
No one, now answer this, who has Superman ever fought that is as strong as this Hulk without getting one shotted?
Too bad this Superman was never one shotted huh?
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:03 PM
LordofBrooklyn
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
So out of all the 50 times he has fought Doomsday, Despero, Kalibak, Darkseid, Grundy, along with numerous of others he is still allowing them to hit him? That doesnt make sense.
Let's see.
Darkseid- Before the despicable jobberseid era Darkseid was truly a cosmic force that should have humbled Superman. Darkseid written correctly is way above Superman.
Doomsday- Doomsday has comprable powers and has adapted to Superman's abilities through their encounters.
Kalibak- I'm not too familiar with any notable encounters between the 2. Taking his sibling Orion, Orion is on par with Superman's abilities.
Despero- Despero is a beast that breaks entire teams and even groups of teams depending on the incarnation.
Grundy- Erratic showings but he has consistently been shown to be as fast as Superman, at least in the melee sense.
So for all of the above (Save Kalibak) Superman is fighting superior opponents or ones comprable in power. He is not holding back, they are just that good.
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carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
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Good point.
When did Superman take a punch from him?
Do you think Prime could repeat what this version of Hulk did to the planet?
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:05 PM
iceman24567
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Let's see.
Darkseid- Before the despicable jobberseid era Darkseid was truly a cosmic force that should have humbled Superman. Darkseid written correctly is way above Superman.
Doomsday- Doomsday has comprable powers and has adapted to Superman's abilities through their encounters.
Kalibak- I'm not too familiar with any notable encounters between the 2. Taking his sibling Orion, Orion is on par with Superman's abilities.
Despero- Despero is a beast that breaks entire teams and even groups of teams depending on the incarnation.
Grundy- Erratic showings but he has consistently been shown to be as fast as Superman, at least in the melee sense.
So for all of the above (Save Kalibak) Superman is fighting superior opponents or ones comprable in power. He is not holding back, they are just that good.
All that were mentioned are as strong as Superman at least and Kalibak was amped at the time he is talking about
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:06 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Let's see.
Darkseid- Before the despicable jobberseid era Darkseid was truly a cosmic force that should have humbled Superman. Darkseid written correctly is way above Superman.
Doomsday- Doomsday has comprable powers and has adapted to Superman's abilities through their encounters.
Kalibak- I'm not too familiar with any notable encounters between the 2. Taking his sibling Orion, Orion is on par with Superman's abilities.
Despero- Despero is a beast that breaks entire teams and even groups of teams depending on the incarnation.
Grundy- Erratic showings but he has consistently been shown to be as fast as Superman, at least in the melee sense.
So for all of the above (Save Kalibak) Superman is fighting superior opponents or ones comprable in power. He is not holding back, they are just that good.
Everyone on the list you just used are nothing but bricks. Hulk has better speed feat than them.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:07 PM
iceman24567
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Good point.
When did Superman take a punch from him?
Do you think Prime could repeat what this version of Hulk did to the planet?
If he couldn't would it matter? Prime has strength feats on par with any version of Hulk
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:07 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by iceman24567
All that were mentioned are as strong as Superman at least and Kalibak was amped at the time he is talking about
We are not talking about strength, we are talking about speed and they are on Hulk level of speed.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:09 PM
kgkg
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Good point.
When did Superman take a punch from him?
Do you think Prime could repeat what this version of Hulk did to the planet?
Yes ... He was easily moving planets at high speed.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:09 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by iceman24567
If he couldn't would it matter? Prime has strength feats on par with any version of Hulk
I agree, now when did Prime punch Superman. I dont remember this happening.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:12 PM
iceman24567
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
Yes ... He was easily moving planets at high speed.
not to mention the barriers he casually breaks with pure strength
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LordofBrooklyn
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Pr; if you join this session thinking I'm only saying this version of Hulk can beat only Superman, I also think he can beat Doomsday, Thor, Gladiator, (not Silver Surfer, to versatile), Orion, Wonder Woman, Beta Ray Bill, and the list goes on.
I would go as far to say that this version of Hulk can beat Warrior madness Thor.
Whoa, this is too far!
Doomsday- adapts after the initial loss and eventually kills WBH.
Thor- Mjolnir provides too much versatility for WBH to handle. Energy draining= Gamma no more, Soul draining= RIP Banner, lightning strikes etc.
Orion- Orion tries the foolish hand to hand combat but survives his initial folly. Between the motherbox and his Astro-Force, WBH loses.
Wonder Woman- The tiara and the lasso are significant offensive weapons here. WBH should heal from getting his throat slit by the Tiara but I don't know if he could break through the lasso. While conjecture, it may also have a calming effect on Hulk.
Gladiator- As always confidence is the X factor. This is a toss up.
Warrior Madness Thor- He physically overwhelms WBH. Yes, I SAID IT. WMT physically overwhelms Thor.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:12 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
Yes ... He was easily moving planets at high speed.
I agree with Prime being just as strong as WWH. I thought I seen everything involving Prime, so when did Prime punch Superman?
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:13 PM
LordofBrooklyn
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I agree, now when did Prime punch Superman. I dont remember this happening.
LEGION OF THREE WORLDS.
There was Prime punching Superman aplenty.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:13 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Whoa, this is too far!
Doomsday- adapts after the initial loss and eventually kills WBH.
Thor- Mjolnir provides too much versatility for WBH to handle. Energy draining= Gamma no more, Soul draining= RIP Banner, lightning strikes etc.
Orion- Orion tries the foolish hand to hand combat but survives his initial folly. Between the motherbox and his Astro-Force, WBH loses.
Wonder Woman- The tiara and the lasso are significant offensive weapons here. WBH should heal from getting his throat slit by the Tiara but I don't know if he could break through the lasso. While conjecture, it may also have a calming effect on Hulk.
Gladiator- As always confidence is the X factor. This is a toss up.
Warrior Madness Thor- He physically overwhelms WBH. Yes, I SAID IT. WMT physically overwhelms Thor.
All of this is your opinion. I love Gladiator and he is my favorite character but I dont think he stand a chance.
Doomsday has never faced anyone as strong as this version of Hulk and when he did he got one shotted.
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:15 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
LEGION OF THREE WORLDS.
There was Prime punching Superman aplenty.
Do you have scans?
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Jul 26th, 2010 07:16 PM
iceman24567
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I agree, now when did Prime punch Superman. I dont remember this happening.
They fought a couple times iirc during the Sinestro Corps slightly weakened version of Prime and during Final Crisis
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