Hmm? When did Dreamqueen, Llan or the Great Beasts cause universal level chaos that way? Dreamqueen had the ability to manipulate her one realm, like Nightmare, and Llan while impressive never did anything on any sort of grand scale that way, that I can recall. His main issue was trying to break down the wall to get his army, IIRC.
Naaaa...that was a weaker host Talisman (male), it was the Talisman "host" from 20,000 years ago that was above them all. She easily beat Llan in a straight up fight, and if you know Llan that's INSANE.
But her own 'nightmare' universe is different. They even allude to her not really ruling anything, just like Nightmare himself. That's why she's called "dream queen"...it's not a PHYSICAL universe. I'm talking about a legit reality.
Gotcha. Didn't know that about the Beasts, and that's a never on Llan then.
But the gods' powers affected the real, physical universe which I think is distinct -- that's more a Master Order/Lord Chaos type deal, and those guys are absurdly powerful.
Just saying.
I also want to add I don't know Talisman at all. Seems powerful as hell, though.
No idea. I have a respect thread somewhere on here or herochat I think that I did some time back, but it's been years, and frankly those were some awful, awful books.