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Thing alone drew get blood from Hulk's face with ONE PUNCH.


So did Cap and Beast. No big feat.


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So did Cap and Beast. No big feat.


Thing hit's look a lot worst. My point is that Hulk won't be smiling like the other said.

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No he wouldn't. Thing alone drew get blood from Hulk's face with ONE PUNCH. If WWH is fighting back then hell no. If he stands there without bracing then possibly.


So what? The main title was extremely gory. When it comes to Green Scar, drawing blood means absolutely shit.

None of them have any chance of taking this Hulk down in a minute by simply punching him.

Depending on the artist, Hulk could end up extremely bloody, but so what? With his healing factor and damage soak, it means shit.


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So what? The main title was extremely gory. When it comes to Green Scar, drawing blood means absolutely shit.

None of them have any chance of taking this Hulk down in a minute by simply punching him.

Depending on the artist, Hulk could end up extremely bloody, but so what? With his healing factor and damage soak, it means shit.


Are you blind? That hit fcking rocked Hulk. THE ART MEANS EVERYTHING!!! Hulk doesn't heal that fast dude.

About 10 more of those hits Hulk would be very woozy. 1 minute of those hits and it may be nitey nite.

Look at Hulk's face for crying out loud.

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Are you blind? That hit fcking rocked Hulk. THE ART MEANS EVERYTHING!!! Hulk doesn't heal that fast dude.

About 10 more of those hits Hulk would be very woozy. 1 minute of those hits and it may be nitey nite.

Look at Hulk's face for crying out loud.


The f*ck? He turned his head and the Hulk went "Hmph."

Hahaha, yea, okay there. Zom Strange was literally blasting holes in Hulk, repeatedly, in the same spot and the Hulk was still trying to get up. IRCC, the spot Zom Strange was repeatedly attacking was nearly healed up in like two panels after he kicks Hulk away.

Shit, during his final fight with the Sentry, Green Scar was almost always engulfed in a giant aura of energy that would have been constantly doing damage to him across his entire body.

Even his arm armor melted, and that thing withstood the Adamantium barrage along with everything else thrown at Hulk.


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And since art apparently matters to you so much, during the X-men tie in, Colossus' punches were literally having no effect on the Hulk. I saw him strike the Hulk like 3 times and it didn't even budge him. Right before Hulk bends his arms, Colossus was able to slightly turn his head with a sucker punch but that's it. No blood or anything.

Colossus is without a doubt on Thing's level strength wise.


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The f*ck? He turned his head and the Hulk went "Hmph."

Hahaha, yea, okay there. Zom Strange was literally blasting holes in Hulk, repeatedly, in the same spot and the Hulk was still trying to get up. IRCC, the spot Zom Strange was repeatedly attacking was nearly healed up in like two panels after he kicks Hulk away.

Shit, during his final fight with the Sentry, Green Scar was almost always engulfed in a giant aura of energy that would have been constantly doing damage to him across his entire body.

Even his arm armor melted, and that thing withstood the Adamantium barrage along with everything else thrown at Hulk.


Hits to the head>>>>>than anything else. Why? Because that is how one gets koed. The brain losses consciousness. Let it be a hole in Hulk's head then u will be on to something. Let Sentry's aura be burning Hulk's brain and u will be on to something.

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And since art apparently matters to you so much, during the X-men tie in, Colossus' punches were literally having no effect on the Hulk. I saw him strike the Hulk like 3 times and it didn't even budge him. Right before Hulk bends his arms, Colossus was able to slightly turn his head with a sucker punch but that's it. No blood or anything.

Colossus is without a doubt on Thing's level strength wise.
Maybe he was holding back like Beast was saying. Maybe the punch wasn't as good as Thing's (technique and placement over strength). Maybe it was a low showing for colossus.

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Hits to the head>>>>>than anything else. Why? Because that is how one gets koed. The brain losses consciousness. Let it be a hole in Hulk's head then u will be on to something. Let Sentry's aura be burning Hulk's brain and u will be on to something.


Iron Man shoved a large spike -pretty sure it’s Adamantium- into the back of Hulk's head. Didn't slow him down.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/85eb8b94619804

The military unleashed a barrage of Adamantium shrapnel
three times.

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The Hulk's head didn't fare any better than the rest of his body. Said attacks barely slowed him down.

General Ross shot Hulk in the eye. I'm pretty sure his bullet was made out of Adamantium. It didn't do shit either.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/4ee26b94619796

Burn his brain? First of: Lulz. Anyway, is aura was engulfing his entire body, and you can literally see the energy escape Sentry every time he struck Hulk - which included upside the head. And in the last set few scenes, Sentry is literally holding on to Hulk's head, and you can see energy escaping his hands.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/e21e2f94617767
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When Hulk was beating on Strange, he was continuously unleashing energy that was damaging the Hulk. Didn’t slow him down one bit.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/f47e1794617909

Said energy is pretty damn similar in look to the one used to punch a hole through the Hulk.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/540b5f94617969
http://www.imagebam.com/image/3ac65994617929

If you think brain trauma and so on is the key to putting this Hulk down after this, I give up.

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Maybe he was holding back like Beast was saying. Maybe the punch wasn't as good as Thing's (technique and placement over strength). Maybe it was a low showing for colossus.


Where did Beast say that? Are you referring to Beast claiming they didn’t want to hurt him? I assumed that it meant resorting to more extreme measures. Which is why Kitty immediately phased him into the ground once he said Hulk left him no choice. Before that, Cyclops attacked Hulk at full power for example. The other attacks didn’t do shit before or after Beast’s claim.

Or maybe the Green Scar isn't as easy to hurt as you might think, and Romita simply drew the main event pretty bloody. Hercules' double handed hit barely drew blood in the original comic but in the next issue, he was bleeding etc.

Or maybe, drawing blood from the Green Scar means absolute shit. It doesn't matter if the artist draws him tanking a hit from Colossus unharmed, or tanking a hit from the Thing while being reduced to a bloody mess. It means f*ck all to the Green Scar.

His main form of defense is his healing factor and not his durability - which is in itself pretty impressive at times.


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Are they limited to punching, or can they just go nuts?


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Stabbing or punching Hulk is practically useless considering his high speed HF.

Ironman's dud Archilles Needle to the back of the head proved that.

Demonic Dr Strange came closest I reckon to Hulk receiving a barrage of punches worthy of making him go woozy.


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Hulkie Boy`s head gets smashed apart for a legit KO.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man shoved a large spike -pretty sure it’s Adamantium- into the back of Hulk's head. Didn't slow him down.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/85eb8b94619804
Well the spike wasn't too long and it isn't quite the same as blunt force trauma.
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This has nothing to do with blunt force brain trauma. Most of the shrapnel went into his body. Some went into his head, but no more than an inch deep. His skull perhaps block it.
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General Ross shot Hulk in the eye. I'm pretty sure his bullet was made out of Adamantium. It didn't do shit either.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/4ee26b94619796
Again no blunt force brain trauma. The brain been rocked is key reason in comics for being koed, not being damaged.
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Burn his brain? First of: Lulz. Anyway, is aura was engulfing his entire body, and you can literally see the energy escape Sentry every time he struck Hulk - which included upside the head. And in the last set few scenes, Sentry is literally holding on to Hulk's head, and you can see energy escaping his hands.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/e21e2f94617767
http://www.imagebam.com/image/914ee194617740
http://www.imagebam.com/image/c6a01c94617799
http://www.imagebam.com/image/3b349394617855
http://www.imagebam.com/image/caa5f194617885

When Hulk was beating on Strange, he was continuously unleashing energy that was damaging the Hulk. Didn’t slow him down one bit.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/f47e1794617909

Said energy is pretty damn similar in look to the one used to punch a hole through the Hulk.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/540b5f94617969
http://www.imagebam.com/image/3ac65994617929

If you think brain trauma and so on is the key to putting this Hulk down after this, I give up.
Yup I do. Brain trauma is the key to ko.


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Where did Beast say that? Are you referring to Beast claiming they didn’t want to hurt him? I assumed that it meant resorting to more extreme measures. Which is why Kitty immediately phased him into the ground once he said Hulk left him no choice. Before that, Cyclops attacked Hulk at full power for example. The other attacks didn’t do shit before or after Beast’s claim.

Or maybe the Green Scar isn't as easy to hurt as you might think, and Romita simply drew the main event pretty bloody. Hercules' double handed hit barely drew blood in the original comic but in the next issue, he was bleeding etc.

Or maybe, drawing blood from the Green Scar means absolute shit. It doesn't matter if the artist draws him tanking a hit from Colossus unharmed, or tanking a hit from the Thing while being reduced to a bloody mess. It means f*ck all to the Green Scar.

His main form of defense is his healing factor and not his durability - which is in itself pretty impressive at times.
Well, there is a big difference between not even phasing someone and rocking them. Showings of blood is irrelevant. So either it was a low showing for Colossus, Thing's punch was more skilled, or he was holding back.

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Trauma is trauma... as long as kinetic energy is being transferred causing the brain to rattle around inside the skull it still causes a knockout in normal people. Besides what kind of nonsense are you talking about blunt force trauma being more damaging than a spike to the brain... If a spike to the brain causing a lobotomy doesn't knock someone out no amount of blunt force is going to do it.

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Thing hit's look a lot worst. My point is that Hulk won't be smiling like the other said.

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You're taking it out of context. Hulk just took nova attack and Storm's lightning, so it was easier to hurt him. Ben failed to draw blood from less powerful incarnations.


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Hulkie Boy`s head gets smashed apart for a legit KO.


hulk tears a large part of his head off to remove memories from his mind:

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he later gets encased in a metal containment unit designed to smother thermonuclear detonations (which he melts to the point it becomes fluid), he breaks out of it and he's fine the next issue

(and yeah, he had that green "world breaker/war hulk" aura long ago, that guy's face and the bullets going for his eyes melted from it)


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Guys with good HFs tend to keep coming even with partly damaged heads or things stuck in their brains.

Still if Hulkie Boy`s head gets completely smashed he is going to have a hard time functioning. I see the team accomplishing that well within the time limit.


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lol at that even happening

he might have a gash at most.


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And since art apparently matters to you so much, during the X-men tie in, Colossus' punches were literally having no effect on the Hulk. I saw him strike the Hulk like 3 times and it didn't even budge him. .


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Trauma is trauma... as long as kinetic energy is being transferred causing the brain to rattle around inside the skull it still causes a knockout in normal people. Besides what kind of nonsense are you talking about blunt force trauma being more damaging than a spike to the brain... If a spike to the brain causing a lobotomy doesn't knock someone out no amount of blunt force is going to do it.

The kinetic energy of the shrapnel was miniscule compared to Thing's punch.

As far as the spike, that's not the way comic writers see it. It is a stab from a thin object that probably only penetrated 1 inch. Hulk was in tremendous pain I might add. So he was koable.

Again, a stabbing and a rocking are two different things in comics.

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