You can't apply other universes vampires to Bladeverse dude for obvious reasons.
The same reason you can't apply Humans in saving private ryan, to the humans in Scott Pilgrim totally different universes dude, you know better.
Bladeverse vamps are universal, the only ones that arnt are Frost post la magra, and Drake because he's the source.
Vamps can see in the dark as standard in Bladeverse - See Blade 2, See sewer scene, See vamps handing Whistler a pair of NVG's because - unlike them - he can't see in the darkness of the sewer...
And please show me Hit Girl using a machine gun in her movie..or packing them on her person as standard gear? Drug dealer Den? No! Final fight ? No!
in a gun v gun fight lets say they start 50 ft apart, blade has his STANDARD assortment of guns and she gets what ever we can call her STANDARD guns say a pair of berettas. id peg him to land a shot on her first, and as for her injuring him, he was impaled by 2 of his own silver steaks 1 through each shoulder JOINT but 7 seconds later was STILL operating at a high enough level to weild his sword (any human wouldnt be able to lift either arms) AND do the Train Grab Feat i mentioned earlier. And thats even assuming she hits him operating at the fastest he can operate. Body shots are out becuase of his standard armor, headshots are unlikley 1) because of his speed and 2) because of his agility. Arm shots won't do much, and leg shots are as unlikley as headshots because of his speed and agility also. He trumps her in ever physical catagory and has an immense damage soak compared to her.-
__________________
Last edited by Juk3n on Aug 28th, 2010 at 09:23 PM
I am not applying other vampires to Blades world, I am simply using them as a tool to show that vampire powers are not universal.
Ah, but it wasn't pitch black, was it? I am talking about a room that is totally dark.
As she is preparing for the final fight, Kick Ass comes out of the bathroom and she is holding an MP5. The OP:
Ho Ho Ho, she has a machine gun too.
HG has machine guns, dude, deal with it.
As for Blade, he hurts when injured, this is shown onscreen. Yes, he is tougher and has a higher damage soak than a human, but a bullet can kill him.
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Means she gets everything in her arsenal. This includes machine guns with grenade launchers on them
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Vamps have night vision dude are you REALLY disputing this? The sewer was pitch black, there were no sources of light, the reason WE the audience can see is because it's movie, listen to what whistler says "SOME of us can't see in the dark you ****in nipple head, what am i supposed to do" - Not up for debate.
And even if she gets an mp5, 1) she's too weak to be truly accurate 2) it's a 2 handed weapon she is WAY less agile with both hands holding a 15 pound weapon. 3) Does she actually use the MP5? i can't recall....
And 4) No one disputes blade feels pain, he felt pain from the steaks through his joints, the same joints that would have disabled ANY REGULAR HUMAN. Yeah he felt the pain, the point is It didnt actually HINDER him as he was back to full operating capacity 7 SECONDS later.
He wins, there is no evidence glancing wounds on forearms and the like put Blade down. He jumps from sky scrapers, takes being impaled (way worse than a gunshot) with no ill effects. She HAS to hit him a head shot to put him down anywhere else would just piss him off, 1 shot to the arm isnt gonna do it, and she's hardly entering an entore clip into him unanswered..to believe that IS deluding yourself.
And im OUT ftw!
and lol at your wiki quote..she gets all that huh? ok buddy, whatever lol. Blade wins mr butthurt.
__________________
Last edited by Juk3n on Aug 28th, 2010 at 09:45 PM
If the OP says she gets everything she had, then she can either:
A. Have it all on her, or have access to it.
B. Can select what she carries on her.
If I am taking on the daywalker, I'm gonna have a friggin grenade launcher.
Not all vampires have NV, man.
HG has access to all her weapons. The OP says so. Look at some of the weapons, some of them (Steyr TMP, mini Uzi, Skorpion, MP5KA4), are one handed weapons. If she is wielding two of them, yeah.....And yes, she would be just as deadly with them.
MP5 weighs about 5 pounds.
Bullet.....Blades brain.......Dead daywalker.
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
mhm, but the OP says "Everything she had." At the very least she has the MP5.
Deal with it. AND grenades.
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
She doesn't know how to fire it properly, shes got really bad aim with it, prove me wrong..which scene does she use it again? Thought so, she might aswell try and club him to death with it, cos she can't shoot for shit with that gun.
oh she can you say? Proof? Thought not.
And as for greneades? yah, im gonna have to go with the same logic there to bud, chances are she blows herself up with it, because she hasnt had the proper instruction with them.
Oh she can use them you say..? Did she use them in the .. no.. no i don't think she did,
she might have better luck with beating blade with it by feeding it to him, she sure as hell aint using it in this battle ^^
PK, so if Blade was to pick up an AK47, he'd be useless with it? Think about what you are saying.
Why would she be preparing the gun for battle if she sucked with it?
Again, she was preparing them for battle, they are in her suitcase. You really think someone like HG is gonna take a weapon they suck with?
Not as fun as yours. You are claiming that HG is gonna go into the fight of her life with weapons she stinks with.
Think about that.
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Doesnt matter dude, she a bullet timer so she dodges the explosion and avoids damage. A nuke could blow up the city and she still dodges, shes like Midnighter.
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
not too mention it's a gun battle if we include grenades (which you are because your reaching to get your butthurt character a win) then we have to include Blades semtex, or his incindiary fire bomb. Or we can just remember that blade IS strong enough to dual wield MAC'11s the fastest subbies in either verse, and while she's bogged down with her sack of guns he;s still super agile with his load.
Answer the question: Someone as highly trained as HG, do you really think she would take weapons into the fight of her life is she was not proficient with them?
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
I thought this was obvious from the fact that she was going for the fight of her life..
get ready..
here it comes..
are you ready for the answer..
AND DIDN'T USE THEM!!111
She must have not been confident in her ability with them eh? why didnt she bring them grenades eh? she could have thrown just 1 of them down the hallway and took out all the goons double time...
With all blades speed and reaction feats and the fact that OTHER vampires who he shares strengths with Can dodge bullets, you still say he can't because he hasn't. I say he's never had to..which if youve seen the films..he hasnt ever had to.
So you have to apply the same logic to her dude, she never used those weapons..thats it. We're assuming she can because she had them? Well..then assume Blade can dodge bullets because Frost can..BEFORE his la magra upgrade - as in when he was a regular vamp who blade is equal to - .
OP says "HG has everything she had", she was shown loading up with grenades for the final battle. She HAD the grenades. Get it?
__________________
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
RJ, i like you..you argue tooth and frickin' nail, never giving an inch, i respect that dude. We'l have to agree to disagree, theres nothing else left to say and no other feats from either camp to pull out our asses, and circular arguments lead nowhere. Why don't we - me and you - leave it to the other guys to decide from what we've presented so far..i mean you can carry on if ya like, but im pretty done here.
See u in the next vs thread dude.
__________________
Last edited by Juk3n on Aug 28th, 2010 at 10:39 PM