And how is reading someones mind outside of h2h? She isn't controlling them, or using tk, just getting extra data via tp. Can I arbitrarily decide that Batgirl's ability read body language and Wolverine's healing factor are against the spirit of h2h too, or do you need to be the one who decides off hand which powers do and do not constitute h2h?
Frankly I don't think it has been like this for years.
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Fine, but he has said some powers are allowed in h2h, which is what I am not clear on. It all seems counter intuitive, which power are and are not allowed..
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It's really not that hard to figure out. If you have a power that in any way effects your opponent in a way that isn't purely physical in nature it's out.
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Elektra' tp doesn't effect her opponent though, she isn't mind controlling them, just gleaming what they will do off the surface of their mind. It is like assuming that Midnighter's battle computer is disabled in hand to hand fights. I would say any power that doesn't exert a measurable force on the opponent is fair game in h2h.
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Well sticking to the topic with or without to I still see elektra winning...
Although I can see how powers like taskmaster and mr x can make yhe situation more sticky.
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I accept that she can't midread. Just to clarify, I'd like a ruling on whether Batgirl's, Fantomex's and Cypher's bodylanguage reading are fair game in a h2h fight. What about Mr X's brand of movment predicting TP? Would that count?
and please, don't use examples that aren't relevant, like Daredevil.
if it's actual mind-reading, as in telepathy, then it's not allowed. if it's some sort of innate skill that they've perfected or are simply naturally gifted, then it's ok.
reading someone's mind to get an advantage is offensive tp, whether it's learned or not, and still constitutes a super-power.
I'm confused as to the distinction between "innate skill they've perfected" and the implied "advantage that was learned."
I agree that this argument is stupid and that it's fairly easy to distinguish what's fair game when saying h2h (and you're right, that's how it's been done on KMC forever), but I'm not grasping your rhetoric. Elektra's powers are a result of her complete anatomical control over her brain function and, going by her history and what has been said about it, every human is capable of doing this with the correct training. I would argue that training her brain in such a way that grants her abilities completely normal for a human in Marvel is no different than any other martial artist training other, more common, parts of their bodies for combat.
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