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DD is superior to any herald.
I disagree.


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You can also do the same for Superman. he stalemated Orion in dotng and looked far better in the dominus story when he took on all the heroes including Orion. Supes is his physical superior slightly whereas Orion has him in rage. Energy projection is pretty close.
What?!!!! Orion's energy projection close to Superman's? hell no. No further discussion is needed.

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Superman's energy projection is very different from Orion's. Superman has better feats, but the Astro Force has deflected the OE.


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What?!!!! Orion's energy projection close to Superman's? hell no. No further discussion is needed.
Why not ? If it's such a stupid thing to say I guess you should have no reason to not pwn me right now....here's your chance.


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Like I said, size and perception adjustment. I was basing that assessment on this scene actually. That in itself is an amp, but not in the same vain as new powers etc.

But like I said, it doesn't matter. All relative.


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Superman's energy projection is very different from Orion's. Superman has better feats, but the Astro Force has deflected the OE.


So has heat vision. smile

Gonna have to finish this later.


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Why not ? If it's such a stupid thing to say I guess you should have no reason to not pwn me right now....here's your chance.
It's not up for discussion. Orion's energy abilities quelled a quantum bomb, injured the star conquerer, helped push back the ALE being who was as powerful as the Source, Helped collapse an entire universe, and One Shotted Superman. Superman's heat vision could not one shot himself. He couldn't even One Shot Wonder Woman or Supergirl with his heat Vision. Superman's energy could not help push back the ALE.

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So has heat vision. smile

Gonna have to finish this later.
That feat is bullshit and you know it. :/


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That feat is bullshit and you know it. :/
Did Superman have a Fourthworld amp when he did this?

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Show me the scans. If it's Apokolips now, it's just BS.


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It's not up for discussion. Orion's energy abilities quelled a quantum bomb, injured the star conquerer, helped push back the ALE being who was as powerful as the Source, Helped collapse an entire universe, and One Shotted Superman. Superman's heat vision could not one shot himself. He couldn't even One Shot Wonder Woman or Supergirl with his heat Vision. Superman's energy could not help push back the ALE.
Most of these are examples of impressive feats which I am sure Superman has more to make claim with of heat vision.

Helped means not on his own so it's really not a good indicator. He oneshotted an older less powerful superman not the current more powerful one. Superman not oneshotting WW is the same as Orion not oneshotting Kalibak with his astroforce and selectively comparing the two.


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That feat is bullshit and you know it. :/


If you say so.

Here's the scene:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...turesof595a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...turesof595b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...turesof595c.jpg

Here's another one:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...okolipsNowa.jpg


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The first one is out of context, 2nd, those are the Omega Beams, not the OE.

First one is after DS used his power to help Superman pierce Imperiex Prime's armor. He was very drained.

2nd one is Apokolips now. Which is BS, and those are the finder beams, NOT THE OE.


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odin force thor got depowered greatly and falling in the ground after he revived the asgardians globally. that's his greatest feat. not fighting bor, someone with no feats who got turned into snow by loki.
darkseid takes this


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The first one is out of context, 2nd, those are the Omega Beams, not the OE.


Based on?

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First one is after DS used his power to help Superman pierce Imperiex Prime's armor. He was very drained.


Are you sure? I really don't want to go check. The issue is Adventure of Superman #595 IIRC if anyone is willing to do it.

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2nd one is Apokolips now. Which is BS, and those are the finder beams, NOT THE OE.


Oh please, not this again.


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Based on?



Are you sure? I really don't want to go check. The issue is Adventure of Superman #595 IIRC if anyone is willing to do it.



Oh please, not this again.
It's no different than if Thor uses a blast from his hammer and it fails to kill Silver Surfer. I'm not going to think it was the God blasts when I know it could have been an anti matter blasts or a lightning bolt. The Omega powers do different things. Not every blast is the trump effect. Just like not every Thor attack is the God blast.

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Based on?



Are you sure? I really don't want to go check. The issue is Adventure of Superman #595 IIRC if anyone is willing to do it.



Oh please, not this again.


Based on actually reading Darkseid's comics and knowing how his powers work.

And yes, that is during Our Worlds at War. Mungi has the scans with citations in the DS respect thread.

Are you saying not this again in response to Apokolips now, or the finder beams? Because if you're disputing the finders, you're wrong. That's how the damn attack works.


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Darkseid rarely uses the Omega Effect ("the end of the end", "the total wipe out") and has never used them on Supes. OE>>>>disintegration/energy beams.


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Darkseid rarely uses the Omega Effect ("the end of the end", "the total wipe out") and has never used them on Supes. OE>>>>disintegration/energy beams.
If he wiped out Superman, then he wouldn't get to humble him and make him server him. People are forgetting DS true motives. He's not a killer. he wants to break wills.

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