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Originally posted by dmills
Looks good. But how combat effective is he with all of that? Can he transition between those abilities effortlessly in the heat of battle? Here's an analogy you'd appreciate. Can he transition from the striking, to the clinch, to wrestling , to jujitsu and back to stand up striking without breaking a sweat

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Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.
In MA he went right from using his tech based powers to magic w/o hesitation.

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Originally posted by dmills
Is that the fight where he was owning everyone until Bob got pissed? Damnit I've been trying to add that to my collection but my lcs doesn't have the issue on back order.

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Originally posted by dmills
Doesn't his powerset generally revolve around his shapeshifting abilities? Not to say that he isn't versatile, but compared to the overall power sets of some of the others how does he stack up i.e. matter manip, energy manip, gravity etc?

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Originally posted by Simbon
Yes, but doesn't Zatanna's versatility revolve around magic? Actually poccy's got lots of other feats, but they tend to emphasize his versatility rather than overall power. He's got:

1) first-class shape-shifting, and related abilities (flight, making weapons, etc.)
2) class 100 strength and durability
3) energy projection, absorption, manipulation
4) teleportation
5) phasing
6) vague-ass feats
7) tk (though this may count as 6)
8) wind-breath
9) in a non-cannon event he projected some kind of gas out of his hands that incapacitated the x-men
10) size alteration (although people exaggerate this)

He's not making the top of the list by any means, but if we are going by the array of options he has at his disposal in a fight, and his ability to go from one to the other, he is definitely in the running for a position on the list.

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Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, he kinda jobbed at the end, even considering Sentry's powers.

But I think this was around the time they were beginning to push Sentry to be a supreme power on Marvel Earth, so I'll accept it.

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Originally posted by Simbon
Yes, but doesn't Zatanna's versatility revolve around magic? Actually poccy's got lots of other feats, but they tend to emphasize his versatility rather than overall power. He's got:

1) first-class shape-shifting, and related abilities (flight, making weapons, etc.)
2) class 100 strength and durability
3) energy projection, absorption, manipulation
4) teleportation
5) phasing
6) vague-ass feats
7) tk (though this may count as 6)
8) wind-breath
9) in a non-cannon event he projected some kind of gas out of his hands that incapacitated the x-men
10) size alteration (although people exaggerate this)

He's not making the top of the list by any means, but if we are going by the array of options he has at his disposal in a fight, and his ability to go from one to the other, he is definitely in the running for a position on the list.

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Originally posted by Mindset
I've always hated Nate, trying to steal Cable's thunder.

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Originally posted by dmills
This battle is for the title of Marvel's most versatile character in terms of combat effectiveness. The criteria is as such. What character(s) has demonstrated the most dynamic power set in the pace of all out combat. I'm not asking for who's the biggest swiss army knife, but rather who are the character(s) that have most effectively displayed/used different abilities in the flow of dynamic combat situations.

Keep in mind that we're discussing dynamic applications of power sets, not heady solutions in the midst of battle ala spiderman or Reed Richards. However, tactical applications of power sets do count; i.e.;

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What I'm hoping to do is perhaps build a consensus top 5. Then i'll do a DC/Wildstorm version. Then a cross company version. However I fully expect this to unravel into shyte, but a guy can dream can't he?

Anyhow, my nominees in no particular order are;

Blackbolt
Quasar
Norrin
Nova Prime
Thor


As usual if I've missed anyone of note feel free to chime in. Who's the best of the bunch? What's your order? Oh and NO ONE ABOVE HIGH HERALD PLEASE!