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Honestly... I don't see the Spiderman and Firelord fight as PIS. It was clearly explained why Spiderman beat Firelord.

The word PIS needs to completely leave the forum. If you got yow a** whipped, you just got that a** whipped.
So all characters need to beat Supes is be near a BP or Exxon?


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Just forget it.
No I totally get it as long as it suits the case everything's legit.


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OMG... can you answer my question please?


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I think his basic point was that the idea of Peter being able to drain Firelord by being too fast is PIS. That, and having the strength necessary to drop him given that FL's a herald of Big G.


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No I totally get it as long as it suits the case everything's legit.


Naah, I said "plot" and you added "induce stupidity". Two different things.


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OMG... can you answer my question please?


Firelord can and has perceived shooting stars from the clear other side of the galaxy. He's Cosmically Aware. The guy has on, multiple occasions, fought Thor on even ground.

Spider-Man being a threat to him is elite level PIS.


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Naah, I said "plot" and you added "induce stupidity". Two different things.
And what do you define as plot? Plot can rely on everything someone forgetting half of his powerset, characters just going down (durability loss), characters geeting tagged (speed loss) or characters being unable to hurt someone (strength loss) even plot devices etc..


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Iirc, Firelord was limiting himself.

Btw, is that comic worth anything, I have it?


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Iirc, Firelord was limiting himself.

Btw, is that comic worth anything, I have it?
Nah but as a friend I'm willing to give you 1 dollar for it.


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I think his basic point was that the idea of Peter being able to drain Firelord by being too fast is PIS. That, and having the strength necessary to drop him given that FL's a herald of Big G.


And this is the issue.

People tending to ALWAYS get space flight mixed up with combat speed. Thor, Vulcan, Rogue, Despero, etc, all have flown through space at light but their combat speed ain't sh**. Stop mixing the two up.

He only had the strength neccessar because he depleted FL of his power.


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He only had the strength neccessar because he depleted FL of his power.


Which is PIS.


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^ Beat me to it.

It'd be like Logan giving someone like Thor a run for his money.


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Firelord can and has perceived shooting stars from the clear other side of the galaxy. He's Cosmically Aware. The guy has on, multiple occasions, fought Thor on even ground.

Spider-Man being a threat to him is elite level PIS.


Read above post.


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Read above post.


Yes, Harbinger agrees it's PIS. I read it.

Seriously, though, Carv, c'mon.

Spider-Man is able to deplete Firelord's energy when prolonged battles with Thor, who was actually using Mjolnir to sap the Power Cosmic from him, didn't drain him? That's PIS. Firelord has reacted to things faster than Spider-Man, but Spidey himself is too damn quick for him? That's PIS.

I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that Spidey beating Firelord was a legitimate victory.


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Yes, Harbinger agrees it's PIS. I read it.
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Nah but as a friend I'm willing to give you 1 dollar for it.
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laughing out loud


I have the first Deadpool comic too, maybe it'll be worth something some day.


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Which is PIS.


Why is it PIS when Firelord powers, everything about him revolves around his power cosmic? Then that's not including the fact that Spiderman isn't just blitzing him with peak human punches but it 10 to 20 tons of force and he was doing it consistently.

Same thing happened to masterson. Those types of punches takes its toll.


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Why is it PIS when Firelord powers, everything about him revolves around his power cosmic? Then that's not including the fact that Spiderman isn't just blitzing him with peak human punches but it 10 to 20 tons of force and he was doing it consistently.

Same thing happened to masterson. Those types of punches takes its toll.


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Firelord has taken blows from Mjolnir and Thor's fists and has stood his ground. In multiple comics, no less.

Screw 10-20 tons of force. Seriously. One of Thor's holding back blows is exponentially greater than a blitz of pissed off Spidey punches.


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Yes, Harbinger agrees it's PIS. I read it.

Seriously, though, Carv, c'mon.

Spider-Man is able to deplete Firelord's energy when prolonged battles with Thor, who was actually using Mjolnir to sap the Power Cosmic from him, didn't drain him? That's PIS. Firelord has reacted to things faster than Spider-Man, but Spidey himself is too damn quick for him? That's PIS.

I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that Spidey beating Firelord was a legitimate victory.


Didn't Firelord receive some type of upgrade before facing Thor?

Who has Firelord tagged that is faster than Spidey "combat wise"?


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Didn't Firelord receive some type of upgrade before facing Thor?

Who has Firelord tagged that is faster than Spidey "combat wise"?


He had no upgrade. Hell, if anything, he was "demoted" when Galactus took on the Destroyer as a Herald and left Firelord on Earth.

Pretty sure being able to see shooting stars across the galaxy and perceive subtle changes in the universe is a better feat than tagging Spider-Man. Even so, Firelord could easily omni-blast with his powers. He doesn't have to point and shoot at Spidey to hit him.


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