I think it's pretty clear that Hal had enough willpower to temporarily overcome/surpass Krona's grip of Ion which enables him to "control willpower". Especially considering how Krona had before then dismantled his constructs and treated him like a feeb.
Hal shouldn't be that impressive, damn it. Stop, Galan!
Either way, I don't really understand how showing that since Krona had Ion to control the specific type of energy Hal directed at him, plus all of the other entities and the Guardian power and still was killed by Hal proves that Hal's blast was less potent? In the way that I don't understand how in a fight against somebody who he doesn't have to also surpass the ring's 'no-kill' limitation he'd have a less potent blast than against someone he had to?
Anyway, the excuses are frankly ridiculous. They don't want to say that Thanos wins, so in order not to demean him by losing to Krona, who was beaten by Hal, the go to demean Hal, when the feat was quite clear-cut.
Quite sad.
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Last edited by Philosophía on Aug 26th, 2011 at 05:21 PM
Because...it doesn't? Which is what I've been saying the whole time: that Hal's feat/showing against Krona is great. Personally, I feel it's great for reasons aside from the blasts power level, which, again, I've said is pretty high. Hal overcame the ring's protocol, managed to get through Ion, and one shot killed Krona. There's nothing to downplay because it's an awesome feat.
I just don't personally think you can replace Krona with anyone and get the exact same results. And that doesn't take anything away from Hal Jordan at all. As far as Thanos goes, considering his immortality gimmick, I don't think Hal would outright slay him. But he's not tanking that shit.
And who's "they" that doesn't want to say Thanos wins? And who's demeaning Hal out of some kind of Thanos related agenda?
I don't see Quan here.
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Either way, we all pretty much agree that Krona wins this and that Hal's feat is a top level one. No one's taking or trying to take away from that. Personally, I feel the context involved in that feat makes it so you really can't just replace Krona with any other random elite level Trans/Skyfather bad guy and expect Hal's willpower to surge forth and just one shot kill him...which I guess is tantamount to saying the blast sucked (even though I never claimed that it did and said the opposite more than once). I guess that's me "downplaying" Hal Jordan to serve the "Thanos Agenda".
It's good to see you've left your whole argument, once you saw it falling down, screaming in flames. Because at first you weren't outright saying that anything related to Thanos is what would prevent the blast from killing him, but the context in which the blast took place means it wouldn't be the same against Thanos (which it would, the only thing that arguably differs is how Thanos takes it).
Anyway, I'm bored of laughing at your stealth attempts at vaguely attacking this feat.
Are you now saying that Hal is now incapable of summoning the same amount of willpower? Can you stick with one argument, or are you throwing shit at the wall, hoping some of it will get hard and stick?
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Last edited by Philosophía on Aug 26th, 2011 at 05:45 PM
Jake's scans definitely lend credibility to his theory, which isn't a bad one when you stop ignoring the parts where he acknowledges the raw power in Hal's blast.
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He doesn't. Basically he says "yeah, it's powerful" but at the same time, he's saying that it's shit because it wouldn't work against anybody else because "context!!".
Because only fanboys that are also idiots would say that he doesn't. That has nothing to do with it.
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Aug 26th, 2011 05:10 PM
ive forgotten more about Thanos than what Kurrupt and Quan know.
