Wasn't Scathan at that meeting. I seem to remember him there when protege was copying
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I don't know about that. I seem to remember on panel him copying everyone present on panel which would include Scathan.
Thus protege was the combination of Lt hawkgod and Scathan....
But was defeated by only Scathan
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"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
If Protege was still at his '> LT' levels after the muzzle was removed (as you say), you'd think he would have tried to defend himself in some way/shape/form (like he had been doing throughout the entire arc) as opposed to, you know, just standing there staring at LT.
Don't care either way though. Protege was weaksauce, imo.
The Protege couldn't do anything with Scathan, the guy that owned him, standing right behind him ready for whatever the Protege was gonna throw at the court. He was the one that stopped the Protege's assault on the council, he was the one that muzzled the Protege (and the Protege with ALL the power he had accumulated, including the LT's own, couldn't break free of the muzzle), and he was the one restraining the Protege (and again the Protege couldn't break free of Scathan despite all the power he had) while the LT passed judgement. Scathan really was all that.
Protege was more powerful than the LT and on his way to becoming the new TOAA until Scathan stepped in. The part about him being more powerful than the LT isn't in dispute since it was confirmed on panel and in the handbook entry for the LT himself.
Anyway I'm thankful neither the Protege or Scathan were heard from again.
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I think you sort of missed my point. Initially, Scathan was not restraining Protege after removing the muzzle. So if Protege was still '> LT' at that point in time (like you said), why didn't he try to defend himself against LT, instead of staring at him like a scared child..?
I too am very glad they are gone. I loathe those characters.
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One thing I wanna point out is the fact that Scathan before he is shown, unleashed a blast (orange rings of energy) that rocked everybody present except maybe LT. Then he appears standing with the same rings of energy around him. This happens right before he is shackled.
Making Scathan more impressive is the fact that the super team of Hawkgod, Eternity, and LT opposed Protege and LT stated he may need extra power from Ancient 1's Amulet. Scathan flat out trumped everybody.
So what happened to the power the Protege absorbed? Did the muzzle remove it? Anyway you look at it, Scathan owned the Protege who was above the LT in power. This was further cemented at the very end when the LT was passing judgement on the Protege he had to draw power from the Eye of Agamotto. Why would he need to do that if the Protege wasn't above him in power?
Scathan >>>>>>Protege>>>>>>>>>>>LT.
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i love that lt thought he needed the amulet to add to his power.
what a horrific arc that was, though at the time i seem to remember enjoying it. scathan was one of the dumbest, most illogical deux ex machinas i've ever seen. i'm going to go ahead and simply assume protege may have had lt's powers but had no inkling how to use them and therefore scathan was able to take him out with....whatever that ridiculous muzzle was. or maybe that muzzle would work on lt too? reed did shoot him once, after all so maybe it's LT who is being overrated by everyone....
lucifer is cooler, feats are less illogical, more concrete and he has the history of feats that that one-timer doesn't. lucifer ends him.
Here's the funny part: beforehand, Protege was more powerful than LT+Eternity+Beyonder+Hawk God. So if Protege was still at the peak of his power when LT judged him at the end, the power LT was leeching from the ancient one's amulet would have needed to be significantly more powerful than Eternity+Beyonder+Hawk God, otherwise it wouldn't have made a difference.
...No way in hell the amulet contains anywhere near that amount of power.
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