Trust me...it won't work. Everything that has happened to Hulk mentally never works against the character. Superman isn't shutting his brain down...sorry.
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But its not quite the same as a mental attack - its more Superman controlling the electricity in his brain, like Jenny Sparks or Magneto. Which is why I asked earlier if Zzaxx ever tried it, and if so, what was the outcome.
There's really no proof on either side that it would or wouldn't work 100%. There seems to be this general belief though that since guys like the Surfer, Thor, Superman, and yes energy based Superman would just walk away with 100% of the victories against the Hulk, while not giving any means of a doubt, that the hulk might be able to literally beat the living hell out of them, and resist many of their huge assaults. Most people forget, or may want to ignore how much of a beast that the World Breaker is, but it doesn't negate the fact, that any Herald level character would be in very real danger of losing if being faced by this brute.
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No, I get your point - but I guess if the Hulk side could show him resisting someone controlling his brain's electrical impulses, then they can argue he can resist Superman's attempts.
And if Superman fans can show that he can indeed control someone's electrical impulses, then they can argue that he could control the Hulk's. Then it comes down to power levels.
At the moment, what I am unclear about, is whether the Hulk has the powerset to resist it in the first place. abhilegend is convinced that Supes has the ability, and that he did it to Kyle - could he please prove it with scans?
The difference in Kyle and the Hulk is that they both have very different physiology's. Things that would shut down or outright kill a human would. and has had less of an effect on the Hulk. During HOTM when he went nearly full on ass crazy are those moments that stopping him is nearly impossible. This is what many people are not seeing. The idea that the Hulk can not confront an intangible being flies in the face of the times that he has. he can even see or detect invisible opponents. he has the ability to hit a target without most people being aware that it is even there. In terms of HOTM and his symbiotic binding to Banner, it may be a bad idea to shut down his brain on any level. As we saw, The Hulk without Banner in the past has proven to make him all the more deadly .Banner up until recently was the restraint. This is why it may not be 100% that such a tactic will work.
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i think it pis/cis that people like professor x, emma, etc arent able to pawn hulk mentally (due to rage, multiple personas, etc) whe they have shown time and time again to be able to affect multiple people at the same time
There are just characters out there that are simply resistant to these forms of attacks. Look at Lobo for example. You have to be willing to give certain characters the benefit of doubt and throw the CIS/PIS rule out if those characters have resisted or simply ignored TP assaults. So if the Hulk resists this form of attack in the future, no one should be overly surprised.
But that's the thing - its NOT a mental assault. Its more akin to something Jenny Sparks does, or Magneto would do. Its a physical effect, he's controlling the electricity in the Hulk's body.
Its like arguing that the Hulk can resist the Flash's speedsteal, for instance.
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I know what it is, the question here is if it would work on someone that has the Hulk's peculiar physiology? Kyle and the rest of the people that it would work against are different. If it can work on him then this fight would be over in one panel, but if it doesn't Superman Blue would have a big bogey on his hands, and I'm not completely convinced that he could take this.
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i understand that he's resistant, but the explanation for said resistance is what gets me...imo it would be harder to control 10 ten people with separate personalities than one person with 10. but alas im not a writer yet
Some charcaters just don't do logical. The thought of one of Banners personalities manifesting in the real world is kind of a cool concept, and if Marvel doesn't drop the ball on this one like they did to the Sentry, they could have a very good story to work with.
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