It means a character isn't limited to their natural way of fighting. Thor would go exotic quicker than starting with a warrior's bash, Superman would go straight speed from the get go, Surfer would use his exotic powers more often, etc.
It means that they would be more willing to cut loose and possibly maim/kill.
They don't suddenly become more adept with their powers. They still fight in-character, just without inhibitions, as contradictory as that might sound.
Fallen one was going ftl speeds as he was flying round space the exact same way and youre absolute bullshit real world calculation dont apply to comic logic as there is no logic in comic where guys can fly in space. Plus Thanos tagged Ganymede who was blitzing Surfer and Tyrants robots at ftl speeds.
This is cis less, Thanos would fire his strongest blasts which Thor or Surfer would go down from leaving it 1 v 1.
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You must prove that fallen one was going at ftl speeds when it has been shown countless times that acceleration in comics does exist. Surfer has been clock several times to reach light speed after a certain distance of travel.
Prove that Ganymede was blitzing at ftl speeds. And show that it is relevant to reacting to a ftl attack from 5 feet away.
How can Thanos put someone down with a blast if they absorb it or block it or phase?
I'm sorry I was debating with several people and lost track of what was been said. I thought you were referring to Thanos tagging ftl movements when you were referring to him forceblocking without shooting a blast. Calm down man, I actually high ball, never low ball (at least these past years I don't).
Well, just because Thanos wasn't shown to shoot a blast doesn't mean he didn't in the writer's mind. In story telling, it is not a good idea to show all the details of trivial matters. It's called editing.
You show me any time this bullshit theory of yours have ever been shown in comics, seriously 1 time.
She was moving at speeds Surfer couldnt react too, you do know how close she was when attacking Surfer and Tyrant bots dont you? my mistake you dont have a clue
Because Surfer wont phase through it as Thanos blast are greater than Surfers power as shown on panel, plus Thor with PG was struggling to Absorb/block a regular blast from Thanos.
It took Surfer several seconds to reach warp speed when he traveled with Northstar (I think). Reed clocked Surfer to be at light speed after Surfer was more than 10m away. Thor was accelerating from slow speeds to light speed and beyond when he was flying in space with the hammer. Glads was accelerating Hulk into space while Hulk was talking (at least a couple of seconds), etc. Surfer has been shown not to react to Hulk's punches before. Still doesn't it make it ftl unless Surfer was complaining about the speed. But in the next instance Surfer easily reacted to her blitz. That means he was caught off guard and wasn't prepared to fight. Phase= Intangible and blasts=/= intangible. Also, although I disagree with struggling to absorb, struggling has nothing to do with can't. Plus Thor has far greater absorption feats to say that he can.
I promise you I don't lie. I made a mistake and got confused of what you were saying. I didn't pay attention to my text you were quoting. I just saw your reply and assumed you were talking about something else. I may be wrong or ignorant at times but never do I purposely tell false things in order to deceive. I think most know this.
I don't lowball anyone. I'm quite the opposite actually. I tend to have a character's highest feats in mind when I debate.
Well if it is the same writer then my point is correct. In the writer's mind it was a blast.
I interpreted that scene as he meant higher powered than his first clone. As Pr said CIS off means less restriction/morals, not that we can suddenly start making up speculative ways of how they could use their powers. It still has to be shown on panel and what you suggested has never happened.
And thats it!! still doesnt prove youre bul;shit theory, this is you lowballin agian. Hulks wasnt moving at speeds that were leavin several after images like Ganymede did. And again stop f*ucking lying Surfer never easily reacted to her second attack she danced around hum. Same old lying crap, she confronted him. Ok to settle it show me Surfer phasing/going intangable from blasts of a Thanos lvl guy. FFS Thor was straining(clearly shown on panel) a more powerfull Thor didnt face a full power Thanos blast or even a omni blast.
Evidence towards A and no evidence towards B doesn't mean B is correct. Meaning, we have evidence towards my claim and 0 evidence towards your claim. Also, Lowballing implies that there are higher feats that contradict my claim.
Surfer clearly stopped her blitz. Thus proving he can react to her. Anything else is irrelevant.
Surfer can phase as shown in comics. So why can't he phase in this fight?
Now you are lowballing. Thor has absorption feats that trumps Thanos output. Plus Omnidirectional blasts are weaker than straight blasts. This is because the total energy output is not concentrated on a single small area.
The evidance was him moving and accelerating at ftl speeds earlier in the comic within the same distance
You said easy, which was ANOTHER lie and he did not stop her blitz at the start, he stopped it mid attack proving her attacks were too quick to deal with at first, it was only her lack of power that allowed Surfer to stop the blitz. And her speed is the issue here NOT her power.
Because he hasnt phased through blasts as powerful as Thanos, it not that hard to understand.
You mean space cheese blast, he hasnt got any absorbing feats from blasts by characters on Thanos lvl, you are only going of explosion n such. even more bullshit..Thanos fire a omni directional blast in the Kyln prison that ripped a section apart, hid regular blasts haven done that. He also killed Adam Warlock with a Omni directional blast when his single blast have failed to do so.
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Prove that Fallen One reached light speed or beyond under that same distance he attacked Thanos with.
A lie and a false statement are two different things. The key difference is intent.
IMO, Surfer stopped her blitz easily. Who cares about the after? Surfer wasn't prepared. Also, this is irrelevant because none of it proves she was blitzing at ftl speeds.
How can a reasonable person accept that a blast will hit something that's intangible? That is asinine. At minimum it is far more believable that the blast will go through Surfer like a ghost vs. hit him.
And again, Thor has absorbtion feats beyond Thanos lvl. He absorbed a more powerful doppelgangers blast with ease is more proof.
Damaging a section of the Kyln prison? Ok, what is that supposed to mean?
Superman got koed by a gas station. I guess that gas station is more powerful than a nuclear blast huh.
And you using that bs non clear feat of Thanos against Warlock? Not only do we not see a omnidirectional blast but we don't know the context of the incident. Give me the issue number to the comic so we can better judge the feat.
Making stuff up? You are the one making stuff up with the Thanos can forceblock without shooting a blast or he can hit Surfer when he's intangible with a blast (or was that Nilhisht?). I'm stating stuff that has been shown on panel.
Read the damn comic, its Fallen One was out of sight when flying in space within the same distance he attacked Thanos
STFU with your excuses, you lied plain and simple its what you do.
Sorry to shatter your world, your opinion isnt fact, it was shown on panel that he didnt stop her attack easy.He was prepared stop trolling, both times Surfer and Ganymede were arguing/ready to throw down. So her moving at speeds Surfer cant stop whilst been hit over and over and over again at speeds faster than light travels.. isnt ftl speed
A weaker Thanos clone hit Vision whilst he was intangaible, so a more powerful Thanos wont have a problem Based on what? You have no proof of Surfer phasing through any blasts to say he can do so against firepower of Thanos lvl
Like who against, and if you knew anything the doppleganger clone wasnt more powerful, the chailce only allowed the clone to control certain energy plus Thor had the belt of strength and was wearing Odin powered armor to aid him.
It means that his omni blast are as powerful if not nore than his regular blast, which his regular blasts didnt do anything like that kind of damage when fighting the Maker proving your bs theory about singular blast are stronger than omni blasts
Who gives a shit
How is it a bs non clear feat(cant wait to hear what shit you come up with) More Trolling, Thanos is facing the Avengers and Warlock confronts him, Thanos then kills him with a blast released from his whole body that covers a wide range that isnt aimed in a certain direction. If you need the issue number to see the feat, then why are you making shit up about "not seeing a omni directional blast" and "not being a clear feat for Thanos"
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Do you just lowball and lie as some sort of auto feature within your brain!
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