All he did was strike the Bifrost over and over, also considering Bifrost had the power to rip an entire planet apart, it could be viewed as a really good feat.
The fact he never did anything like those in the movies and didn't fight like that at all? I'd rather not presume and project what I think might happen or is possible with powers over what we actually saw. Thor could just toss Mjolnir at Superman and command that it lay inert over his chest, effectively pinning him. I doubt that would ever happen in the midst of a fight. Thor was able to endure blasts from Gungnir, the same weapon which easily disintegrated Laufey and is powered by the same source as Mjolnir and the Destroyer. I could argue that based off of that, Superman's heat vision is rendered absolutely useless.
The funny thing about it is that he was able to hear gatling gun fire from space and fly down in time to block the bullets.... to say that movie thor can hit someone with speed like that without showing anything other than peak speed is conjecture at best imo.
When did he ever command mjolnir to do anything like that in the movie? He did that to Loki because he was already laying down...
I really would like to know how any of that would render superman's heat vision "absolutely useless". Because it disintegrated a frost giant? Also, the destroyer was getting worked by the warriors three... of course thor was able to defeat it. I'm not saying that they aren't powerful, just that they have not been shown anywhere near island lifting, moon pushing, gatling gun shrugging, ftl levels...
In superman two he struggled either with a truck or a bus keeping it's momentum from harming others and causing more damage.
Uhm, he reversed time after he failed to be fast enough to save Lois and through momentum. This isn't something he is capable of in terms of combat against Thor.
Gungnir disintegrated Laufey, who was portrayed as being Odin's peer. Thor took the same kind of blast and was still kicking. Based on that flimsly line of argument, I could argue that Thor could just take heat vision and be fine. There's a reason why I won't though:
It'd be stupid.
The Destroyer wasn't "worked" by the Warrior's Three. It was impervious to physical harm displayed in the film. It could be moved and stabbed, but it did no damage to it. It was only beaten by Mjolnir forcing its own disintegration beam back into its visor. Not really the low feat people think it is to be destroyed by its own power.
The problem is that Superman doesn't have many combat feats in the movies, outside of dealing with Sentry...er, Nuclear Man and Zod and cohorts. You could definitely apply his non combat feats, infinitely more impressive than those inside of it, and propose a method for why Superman would win, if not solo. But based on how he fought in the films, I don't see him crushing his foes with anything resembling ease. *shrug*
Well I never said anything about using Heat Vision as Mjolnir has shown it can absorb/deflect energy bolts anyway.
Thor showed some nice durability feats, I agree with that.
With combat feats are you suggesting that we have to see him do a specific move in a fight to prove that he can? For example is him moving at super speed not evidence that he can punch at super speed? That's kind of baseless tbh.
I mean does Superman in Superman Returns not hit as hard or as fast as Spiderman, because we've seen more from Spiderman in combat situations? Of course not, because Supes has shown feats to show he's a million times stronger and a hundred times faster than spidey.
But fine If we are talking combat specific then we see Superman with the speed to stop a nuclear missile, dodge rockets and catch a bullet, we've seen him run at super speed. So Superman has shown combat speed far beyond what we have seen from Thor.
As for the blast from Gungnir Thor endured, it did send him flying back. Im afraid Movie Thor needs considerably better feats to compete with Movie Supes.
The problem with Thor is that besides a couple of instances it's hard to gauge his power level, since most of his feats are against asgardian artifacts. Which we don't know how they compare to other things to see how powerful they are.
His best feats we can gauge are the landscape destruction scene, and the bifrost feat.
The same way thor and gladiator struggled to land a plane. He didn't want to harm any people inside the bus. Lulz at the attempt to lowballing though. Why can't he do time-reversal again if he wants?
No, he wasn't trying to lift it going down at tremendous speeds he struggled to slow down it's momentum. It wasn't even going that fast to begin with. It's out of character for Superman to do so. Why do you ask me to explain the obvious. It's like you don't comprehend what's in character for a character and what's out of character. He did not ever in the middle of a fight go back in time to defeat someone. He only did so after he wasn't fast enough to prevent Lois' death.
The fact I had to break this down for you is amusing.
Lulz, what do you expect from 1978 technique? Good to know that thor and gladiator combined aren't strong enough to lift a plane.
Again reading comprehension ftw. I asked why he isn't capable of time-reversal like you claimed. Your opinion is taken and discarded. Superman solos.
Superman was a real pansy while Thor was a battle hardened monster but I think the power gap might be too much. Based on combat, I can honestly see Thor beating him, but I think he was intended to be on an entirely different level of power, at least at his high points.
Giving DC the win. I know nothing about Supergirl though, going to assume she's on Hal's level.
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We argue based on what's in character and since Superman isn't in character to travel back in time in the middle of a fight to defeat an opponent it's not a viable tactic.
Thor breaks Superman easier than the guy at the diner.
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