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Placidity
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Originally posted by BlackZero30x
It runs on the arc reactor in his chest. It never said what kind of energy it put out iirc.


Why would you assume it doesn't run on electricity?

Why did the lightning charge him up?

I believe there was lots of electricity when the big arc reactor in Iron Man 1 when it was being pushed to overdrive or whatever. And yea, it supplied powers to homes etc. Just like the thing he installed in the Avengers powered up his Tower. Guess what, it runs on electricity, not sound waves, or light or heat or whatever else. Either way, you don't think his suit is made from electronic tech regardless of what form of energy the reactor outputs?


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I don't think the machines can harm Thor or Hulk, it's nice to say they have lasers that can break through ships, but so did Ironman and it wasn't like they were causing much damage to the more durable creatures like the Leviathon's and I would say Thor or Hulk are both tougher than those things.

Even if all Thor does is Fly up through the hole when it first forms he would take out a ton of Sentinels just flying through them hammer first. Until he reaches the sky and calls Forth massive amounts of lightning down on them from above.

Heck Thor could probably fly towards the central control area if IM can direct him and threaten the lead machine. I don't think there is really anything they can do to stop him.


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It runs on the arc reactor in his chest. It never said what kind of energy it put out iirc.

The arc reactor was stated to output 3 gigawatts of power. So yeah, Tony's armor does run on electricity and his systems getting charged up to 400% + power when hit by Thor's lightning is further proof of that.

On a sidenote, the "arc" in the arc reactor is a play on electric arcs which have incredibly high current densities.


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Guess what, it runs on electricity, not sound waves, or light or heat or whatever else. Either way, you don't think his suit is made from electronic tech regardless of what form of energy the reactor outputs?

Even if sound waves, light waves etc. were involved, it would still run on electricity because these types of devices convert those types of energy into electrical power for machines to run on.


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Arc Reactor produces electrical current, it's just a self sustaining and apparently "clean" power source. Unless it's been specifically stated that Tony build in EMP protection, there's no reason to assume his suit would be immune in a Vs match. But personally, I find it hard to believe his suit isn't insulated to survive and EMP burst, guys a genius.

One thing I didn't understand, why he lost power when he went into Chitauri space, it seems like he needs to have a connection with Stark Tower to run the suit.


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Arc Reactor produces electrical current, it's just a self sustaining and apparently "clean" power source. Unless it's been specifically stated that Tony build in EMP protection, there's no reason to assume his suit would be immune in a Vs match. But personally, I find it hard to believe his suit isn't insulated to survive and EMP burst, guys a genius.

One thing I didn't understand, why he lost power when he went into Chitauri space, it seems like he needs to have a connection with Stark Tower to run the suit.
I just attributed Stark losing power at the end to him using up all his power reserves, not him losing contact with Stark Tower. He did just go through a huge fight and was using massive amounts of power.


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Understandable, I don't recall Jarvis mentioning him be low. But that's likely it.


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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The arc reactor was stated to output 3 gigawatts of power. So yeah, Tony's armor does run on electricity and his systems getting charged up to 400% + power when hit by Thor's lightning is further proof of that.

On a sidenote, the "arc" in the arc reactor is a play on electric arcs which have incredibly high current densities.


Actually, I think it was stated to be 3 gigajoules per second and that was the one he built in the cave, his later ones were far more powerful.


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Understandable, I don't recall Jarvis mentioning him be low. But that's likely it.
I know he asked Jarvis to divert all power to thrusters when he heard about the Missile coming in. He may have burned through it all catching up to the missile and diverting it.


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I don't think the machines can harm Thor or Hulk, it's nice to say they have lasers that can break through ships, but so did Ironman and it wasn't like they were causing much damage to the more durable creatures like the Leviathon's and I would say Thor or Hulk are both tougher than those things.

Even if all Thor does is Fly up through the hole when it first forms he would take out a ton of Sentinels just flying through them hammer first. Until he reaches the sky and calls Forth massive amounts of lightning down on them from above.

Heck Thor could probably fly towards the central control area if IM can direct him and threaten the lead machine. I don't think there is really anything they can do to stop him.


Well the chitauri ships were hurting Hulk when they ganged up on him. He was powerless to stop them then until the chitauri's mothership blew. And if they could do that to Hulk, then it would probably be similar with Thor.

I haven't watched Matrix in quite some time so I'm not sure what kind of firepower those machines have, but if they have anything to equal the firepower of the chitauri gunships, then thousands of them will give even Hulk and Thor problems.


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Well the chitauri ships were hurting Hulk when they ganged up on him. He was powerless to stop them then until the chitauri's mothership blew. And if they could do that to Hulk, then it would probably be similar with Thor.

I haven't watched Matrix in quite some time so I'm not sure what kind of firepower those machines have, but if they have anything to equal the firepower of the chitauri gunships, then thousands of them will give even Hulk and Thor problems.
Besides their physical power the only other weapon they carried was a laser beam that they apparently could only use while they were latched to something cause as far as I can remember they only used it when they were trying to dismantle a ship.

Also it wasn't like the lasers they had instantly cut through ships either, I would say Ironman's laser was way more impressive than the Sentinels'. I would also say that the Chitauri weapons were more powerful as well. I don't see Matrix style ships taking more than a couple of those blasts and like I said it wasn't like a Sentinel laser was instantly cutting through the ships as far as I remember.

So unless I'm missing some big feat that those lasers did I don't see them being enough to hurt Hulk or Thor especially if they aren't standing still.


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I just attributed Stark losing power at the end to him using up all his power reserves, not him losing contact with Stark Tower. He did just go through a huge fight and was using massive amounts of power.
I thought he lost power because he was near the nuclear explosion and his suit was damaged.

Or did he lose power before that?


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I thought he lost power because he was near the nuclear explosion and his suit was damaged.

Or did he lose power before that?


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I thought he lost power because he was near the nuclear explosion and his suit was damaged.

Or did he lose power before that?
I think he lost it before that. As in he tried to call Pepper it didn't work then his suit lost power and let the missile go just as his eyes went out.

I could be remembering it wrong though, but I'm pretty sure that's how it went.


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Is there even a reason he lost power? Was it the cold of space or what?


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Is there even a reason he lost power? Was it the cold of space or what?
I don't think it has anything to do with space.
I think it has to do with the fact he has a finite source of power and he had been using a lot of it during the battle and that the missile snatch he did probably was him on his last legs.


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Didn't Iron Man's suit lose power in the Chitauri space from the EMP from the nuke?


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Didn't Iron Man's suit lose power in the Chitauri space from the EMP from the nuke?
It depends on when he lost power.

I think he lost power before the Nuke went off, therefore I think he just ran out of power.


If he did lose power after the nuke went off the lose of power could have stemmed from an emp but not completely concrete.

Also he didn't lose power in one swift moment I think. I think his eyes blinked a couple of times before going off. If it had been an emp my guess would have been that his eyes would have shut off without the blinking.


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One thing I didn't understand, why he lost power when he went into Chitauri space, it seems like he needs to have a connection with Stark Tower to run the suit.

Maybe the Cosmic Cube portal phucked him up?

His chest plate was running on an entirely new element(absent from the Periodic Table) afterall. An element he created utilizing his father's notes that were written from studying the tesseract.

Edit: Although that depends on whether Avengers takes place before or after Iron Man 2.


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