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the ninjak
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When did Jedi/Sith ever show such speed in actual combat?

Instead of their one feat of running from point A to B?


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Originally posted by quanchi112
He said and now you die. After he tortured him he was trying to kill him to which Luke casually walked away from. I've seen more damage from a concussion than what Luke endured.

You're making things up. He tried to kill Windu the entire time. He didn't hold back and never killed anyone yet you expect me to believe it can even halt someone with Russell's strength let alone even hit.


Precog didn't save Yoda from Palp's slow hand raise force lightning blast. Face it Russell is faster and kills him.

Admit defeat.
I really can't come up with a big enough facepalm. I highly doubt that you have watched the movies. But honestly, I don't care to debate right now (I'm procrastinating on writing a speech)

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I really can't come up with a big enough facepalm. I highly doubt that you have watched the movies. But honestly, I don't care to debate right now (I'm procrastinating on writing a speech)
The Emperor says and now you die or something to which Luke takes a prolonged attack and walks away after Vader interferes. Force lightning isn't a quick death at all. You go back down because you know Russell is faster and stronger. He could rip his head off before he even could think.


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Originally posted by the ninjak
Dracula can kill whilst in mist form.
Dracula can kill mortal pussies while in mist form.


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Jedi/Sith as far as movies go have been shown to have very fast reflexes due to precog... but they don't have super speed the same way vamps do.

True Blood and Twilight vamps are too fast for them, even with precog. Russel is way faster than any of them here. Edward though not as fast has telepathy which still puts him at an advantage.

Jedi and Sith can react to laser guns perhaps, but that's because guns only have a single trajectory - straight. Not sure if they can do the same with a moving vamp.


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Originally posted by NemeBro
Dracula can kill mortal pussies while in mist form.


Someone needs a coffee.
Besides a Sith in a tin can suit with crap feats ain't all he's cracked up to be.
What's Vader gonna do in a forum arena against a cloud of killer mist?


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Again, what are vamps going to do against Force domination of their minds? What are they going to do against being crushed by the Force? What are they going to do about being held in place while they are decapitated? They are fast no doubt but they cannot maintain that speed infinitely. It's also ridiculous to say that the portrayal of TB speed is relevant but portrayals of the Force that are considered accepted by George Lucas are not.

Regardless, as stated before the vamps have ZERO defense against the Force. Obviously each combatant knows the other is there so if nothing else the Sith could ready a Force Wave to unleash as soon as the vampires advance, which they could feel in the Force even if they can't perceive it quickly enough to react by vision alone. Palpatine destroyed a creature weighing thousands of pounds from the inside with his lightning; quite sure he could vaporize a vamp.

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Originally posted by the ninjak
Someone needs a coffee.
Besides a Sith in a tin can suit with crap feats ain't all he's cracked up to be.
What's Vader gonna do in a forum arena against a cloud of killer mist?

Contain it in the Force and then do with it as he pleases.

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Someone needs a coffee.
Besides a Sith in a tin can suit with crap feats ain't all he's cracked up to be.
What's Vader gonna do in a forum arena against a cloud of killer mist?


That "tin can suit" can deflect blaster fire.


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Russel would rip the spine out of Palpatine and shove it up Vader's ass.

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That "tin can suit" can deflect blaster fire.


Is the suit possibly airtight?

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Originally posted by Ascendancy
Again, what are vamps going to do against Force domination of their minds? What are they going to do against being crushed by the Force? What are they going to do about being held in place while they are decapitated? They are fast no doubt but they cannot maintain that speed infinitely. It's also ridiculous to say that the portrayal of TB speed is relevant but portrayals of the Force that are considered accepted by George Lucas are not.

Regardless, as stated before the vamps have ZERO defense against the Force. Obviously each combatant knows the other is there so if nothing else the Sith could ready a Force Wave to unleash as soon as the vampires advance, which they could feel in the Force even if they can't perceive it quickly enough to react by vision alone. Palpatine destroyed a creature weighing thousands of pounds from the inside with his lightning; quite sure he could vaporize a vamp.


Contain it in the Force and then do with it as he pleases.


If this is the movie versus forums then I assume that we're using movie versions, and as far as movie versions go I don't recall any jedi/sith using Force domination of minds on any strong willed individual.

I don't recall any force crushing as well, just force chocking. Being held in place? Don't recall that either.


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If this is the movie versus forums then I assume that we're using movie versions, and as far as movie versions go I don't recall any jedi/sith using Force domination of minds on any strong willed individual.

I don't recall any force crushing as well, just force chocking. Being held in place? Don't recall that either.


Holding in place happened when obi wan and anakin battled dooku the 2nd time. :-)

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Many of the Force powers in the SW universe are not shown in movies. There is only so much you can show. It is really not a fair comparison or fight. The Sith you mentioned really aren't that great fighters cept Dooku and Anakin/Vader. I would have chosen Asajj Ventress due to the fact that she is a Nightsister/Sith apprentice to fight Blade. Not only does Ventress have access to the Force, but dark side sorcery as well.

Cullen would get his ass kicked because his fights on screen did not impress me at all. So what if the bastard can run fast. Sith fight dirty and not fair. Do you expect them to fight with rules? I'm not arguing on SW side . . . I'm saying the batting line up isn't exactly . . . correct.

FrothByte if the Sith cannot feel them in the Force, then they are at a serious disadvantage.


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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Is the suit possibly airtight?


It's a life support system and considering Vader needs to be in a special sealed room when he removes is, it stands to reason it is.

IIRC, in the EU it's mentioned it is.


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The Emperor says and now you die or something to which Luke takes a prolonged attack and walks away after Vader interferes. Force lightning isn't a quick death at all. You go back down because you know Russell is faster and stronger. He could rip his head off before he even could think.
Again, I can't facepalm with a big enough hand.

I finished my speech (presenting Monday, like a boss) but I still don't care to debate. I do not have the adequate knowledge of the opposition to the Jedi and Sith to form a proper debate. However, I was saying its not a stomp by any means.

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Didn't Russel and Eric flew cross a few states pretty fast like in minutes or an hour?
It was the episode they were looking for Sookie IIRC when they appeared in front of her car and stopped it with 1 hand.


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I do not have the adequate knowledge of the opposition to the Jedi and Sith to form a proper debate.
Sace your huge hands to palm your own face. You admit you have no knowledge thus making you a fanboy.

Russell stomps.


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Russel would rip the spine out of Palpatine and shove it up Vader's ass.


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I'm just face palming at all the people on this thread who have said Blade "with his guns" takes Darth Maul.

Maul would send Blade flying all over the place with the Force. His "amazing guns" would go flying out of his hand and into Maul's.

One Light saber slash would finish him off.

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That's a good point. For some reason i totally forgot Maul could just chip Blade via the Force. In PM he mostly just used his blades and i only recall him using the Force to open a door during his fight at the end.

I don't think Maul's go to tactic would be to just toss Blade around or disarm him with the Force and that's how Blade could win. If Maul wants to end it quickly with the Force he certainly can i just don't think he would


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