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Rikudo sennin
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Question: Are things like Flash Step and Body Flicker actual uses of speed or are they just teleports? Because your have Shunsui travelling long distances is a single step indicating its more the latter to me.


Speed.

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Question: Are things like Flash Step and Body Flicker actual uses of speed or are they just teleports? Because your have Shunsui travelling long distances is a single step indicating its more the latter to me.


They're burst speed, with the exception of Minato's flying thunder god move which is teleportation (that he has in *addition* to crazy high burst speed).


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Question: Are things like Flash Step and Body Flicker actual uses of speed or are they just teleports? Because your have Shunsui travelling long distances is a single step indicating its more the latter to me.


http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Step


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http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Step


Btw, in the manga Prince of Tennis, one character uses this to play like a doubles match entirely by himself by moving back and forth between two places so quickly!


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Everyone seems to be using the fact that one piece likes to drag itself out like DBZ when it comes to getting to the plotpoint. Thats the reason it always takes them forever to run places. But were talking characters that get places as fast as they can. Like when kizaru was facerolling the straw hats. He could tleport at will to any spot he wanted as long as someone wsnt surpressing his ability with haki as Silvers did.


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Bump for Minato getting a power up that puts him on high OP level characters! **** all the shit about him struggling with Logia's and whatnot. He finally will be getting feats he deserves!

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Originally posted by Bentley
I actually meant that Minato could get speedblitzed by some... But I like this tech so I'm not going to argue against it, I should use it everytime someone posts a DBZ vs Naruto thread cool
DBZ can sense energy tho so it would not be invisible to them, sorry dbz is way above the naruto universe #FACT DBZ DONT NEED TO DODGE ANY BULLETS OR LASERS HAHA AND USE THE REAPER SEAL THEY WOULD JUST BE WISHED BACK TO LIFE AND The naruto person would not- win dbz but back to your other argument smile


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Bump for Minato getting a power up that puts him on high OP level characters! **** all the shit about him struggling with Logia's and whatnot. He finally will be getting feats he deserves!


A biju cloak *should* work like armament haki, yea.


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A biju cloak *should* work like armament haki, yea.
Why?


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The bullets, being flintlock, are likely slower than that, and heck, seem slower than Usopp's slingshot. We've seen projectiles visibly move quite slowly (the normal marines were able to notice and react to the cannonballs fired by Capoine before they hit).


You can't disparage the guns for being flintlock while in the same breath claim a slingshot fires projectiles faster.

You can have your cake, but you can't eat it too.

Scans of Capone.

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And, oh yea, Naruto characters still move longer distances in shorter periods of time, regularly, and we see OP characters try and travel distances and take awhile to do so repeatedly. Most of the fast OP stuff is just burst speed, and you might say, 'well, ok, Naruto has better sustained speed but OP has the option of burst,' but Naruto has very fast bursts too that travel much, much faster than the distance travel that covers kilometers over short times.


How fast is "short times".

Give me a time frame.

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And I will note, a lot of people are trying to scale off of projectile speeds, a mach 15 laser and all that. Well, to that, let me point out how in baseball, a 45mph pitch is really slow and easy to hit to a pro, but it's still way faster than they can go. Finding a projectile slow doesn't mean you're faster than it, or even remotely as fast, just that, at it's speed, you can react to it.


Only pitchers usually don't pitch from twenty feet away.

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You can be 1/10th the speed of something and still react to it just fine.


Not if it is less than ten meters away.

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OP deals with high speed projectiles pretty often, but Naruto has the better speed feats.


Quantify them then.

I'll be waiting.


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Why?


Because they're almost identical. If we assume even the slightest power equivalency, each involves covering oneself with energy. Spirit/physical energy, no less.

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You can't disparage the guns for being flintlock while in the same breath claim a slingshot fires projectiles faster.

You can have your cake, but you can't eat it too.


Seeming slower than a slingshot seems a great reason to disparage them, if you ask me.

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How fast is "short times".

Give me a time frame.



Kilometers in, probably, double-digit seconds or so.


Marineford, Thriller Bark, Enes Lobby. Both involved big 'chase after an objective,' that takes significant time, and Kisame fleeing turtle island leaves 'em in the dust (or Pain fleeing 8-tails Naruto, for another example of miles covered in a short time).

Luffy climbing the vinestalk on Skypeia took a fair amount of time for him (even without the gold ball). Naruto leaps mountains casually.


It's hard to get precise numbers... but over distances, the speeds are clearly not remotely near comparable.

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Only pitchers usually don't pitch from twenty feet away.

Not if it is less than ten meters away.


If one judges where the aim is going to be? Yes, one can.


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