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John (Universal Soldier 4) vs. Wolf
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theTANTALIZER
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No way a Uni Soldier can hold off an Aliens with barehands like a Predator. A young Pred weights roughly 500 lbs and can move like a monkey. Regardless of the Uni Soldier's increased ability, they still won't beat an experienced Pred like Wolf.


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I'm mostly referring to the sewer scene. He managed to counter multiple aliens coming at him, while there was use of tech some of it was H2H which Wolf did pretty well at.

What are his reflex feats, the only one you've mentioned is the bowling ball and I wouldn't say that puts him past an Alien.


He caught a baseball bat thrown at him. He was able to dodge multiple blows from machetes, baseball bats, and knives.

You keep saying claiming that Aliens are faster. Can you give me actual speed or reflex feats of Aliens used in combat? Or predators? Prove that they are faster than John.


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I'm mostly referring to the sewer scene. He managed to counter multiple aliens coming at him, while there was use of tech some of it was H2H which Wolf did pretty well at.

What are his reflex feats, the only one you've mentioned is the bowling ball and I wouldn't say that puts him past an Alien.


Then there's not much to go by is there?

What FrothByte said plus a few aim dodging feats. Most of his fights at the end were fought in slow motion so it's hard to judge. And he was faster than most UniSols except for Luc.

OTOH I can't remember any speed feats for Wolf or the AvPR Aliens.

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The fight with Van Damme was less impressive than his other fights in the flick, you can tell Scott Adkins was going slow to allow Van Damme's old and broken roided-out ass time to move. It was almost sad in how funny it was.

Having said that, this Unisol has a very good chance of taking out a Predator in this setting, he's smaller, faster and more agile. At one point he showed some sort of battle precog, as he ducked a shotgun blast to the back of his head without looking back. His damage soak is also extremely high, possibly close to a Predators.


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Wolf wins.

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Yeah, maybe, just not a stomp and closer than people think.


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Pffft, that's not even Wolf.

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Pffft, that's not even Wolf.


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He still loses though.

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I'd say his reflexes are superior to most Aliens on screen and especially the fodder from AvPR. BTW I'm going to ask you again and I hope I'm going to get an answer this time. When did Wolf take on multiple Aliens in AvPR? I can't remember a single instance except the already mentioned part with the two Aliens in the sewer and that was more of a strength feat than anything else.

I don't know if all this is a sufficient response to your query, but I'll give it a try :

During the hospital scene when his plasma pistol got knocked away by an alien(iirc it was probably the hybrid) . In their hive, after using his up his 2 spinning blades to decapitate two more aliens, he got snuck up from behind by another alien but quickly overpowered it and pummeled it on the ground .

Also, when his spin blade accidentally cut up that girl in half and her bf went in a blind rage shooting Wolf repeatedly, an alien came bullrushing at him and knocked him down the empty elevator. When next he was seen, Wolf was carrying around the tail of an alien as a makeshift whip-blade, so presumably he killed that elevator alien with his bare hands.


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Pffft, that's not even Wolf.
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I don't know if all this is a sufficient response to your query, but I'll give it a try :

During the hospital scene when his plasma pistol got knocked away by an alien(iirc it was probably the hybrid) . In their hive, after using his up his 2 spinning blades to decapitate two more aliens, he got snuck up from behind by another alien but quickly overpowered it and pummeled it on the ground .

Also, when his spin blade accidentally cut up that girl in half and her bf went in a blind rage shooting Wolf repeatedly, an alien came bullrushing at him and knocked him down the empty elevator. When next he was seen, Wolf was carrying around the tail of an alien as a makeshift whip-blade, so presumably he killed that elevator alien with his bare hands.


That's not bad but like I said AvPR aliens were being killed by teens with guns so I'm not so impressed.

As for the tail I'm pretty sure he had a whip weapon and not an Alien's tail.

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That's not bad but like I said AvPR aliens were being killed by teens with guns so I'm not so impressed.

As for the tail I'm pretty sure he had a whip weapon and not an Alien's tail.
It's the guns/bullets that killed them, not the teens.

I don't see how that denigrates the aliens.


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It's the guns/bullets that killed them, not the teens.

I don't see how that denigrates the aliens.


They had superior durability in the previous movies.

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They have been killed by bullets in previous movies.


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Not so much. In Aliens the xenos could take several hits from a M41A Pulse Rifle before one dropped.

"The M41 Fires the standard US M309 10 x 24 Light Armour Piercing Explosive Tipped round. This ammunition comprises a 210 grain (13,6 gram) projectile embedded within a rectangular caseless propellant block of Nitramite 50. The propellant content is small but highly efficient, generating muzzle velocities in the order of 840 meters per second.

The round is explosive tipped, with impact fusing pre-set during manufacture. Terminal ballistic characteristics have been optimized for maximum lethality against infantry wearing personal armor. The round is designed to penetrate the armor, exploding just after impact to inflict lethal internal damage. The standard M41 ammunition clip will hold up to 99 M309 rounds in an 'U' bend conveyor, which feeds the rounds mechanically into the rotating breech mechanism. However, in practice the clips are only filled to 95% capacity in order to reduce the autoloaders tendency to jam."


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In Alien 3 they got killed by slingshots.


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That was a lame Xeno who was part dog, but it was only killed by being dipped into molten lead and then flash cooled.


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In Alien 4 Ripley farted and killed one.


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Ripley was part Xeno herself though, so it stands to reason she was dealing out xeno-farts.


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