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That's how it goes in all the forums. The original media the character appeared in takes precedence.

Sure you want to go with this?

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However, as has been said, this is only in the case of contradictions. If they get extra powers in the movie then they get the powers. However, if they are explicitly said not to be able to do something in the book, they can't do it. Even if they could in the movie.

I can roll with that.

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I'm not entering the debate. I don't care what people think, however I do side with Luke. The shenanigans are strong with this one. But yes, that is the rule to the best of my knowledge.

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I'm not entering the debate. I don't care what people think, however I do side with Luke. The shenanigans are strong with this one. But yes, that is the rule to the best of my knowledge.

If what you said is true, if "The original media the character appeared in takes precedence", then Luke's force powers in JL cannot be used here. After all, the original media is the movies, right? And said movies>>>>>the EU.

See how your argument backfired on you?

Nov 22nd, 2012 07:15 PM

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EU Luke is Luke after the films.

While there's a book for every movie for Harry Potter. See?

Now if there's some Harry Potter movie made after and/or not based on any of the books, sure, what happens there couldn't be surpassed by written material.

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EU Luke is Luke after the films, as the sodomite above me said, and as such, his feats after the movies by definition can't contradict the ones in the movies.

And EU Luke roflstomps.

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EU Luke is Luke after the films.

While there's a book for every movie for Harry Potter. See?

Now if there's some Harry Potter movie made after and/or not based on any of the books, sure, what happens there couldn't be surpassed by written material.

Exactly, movie Luke is before the EU. Therefore, according to you guys, the movie takes precedence.

After all, people are claiming that the Potter books, since they are before the films, take precedence, right?

What I see here is rules being applied to Potter that do not apply to Luke. You cannot have it both ways.

Nov 22nd, 2012 11:53 PM

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Lol, what? It's not similar at all. The thing is the EU does not contradict the films as they are in different time frames.

Plus, TBH, I still think the films are not part of HP canon. But I can relent on that.

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Exactly, movie Luke is before the EU. Therefore, according to you guys, the movie takes precedence.

After all, people are claiming that the Potter books, since they are before the films, take precedence, right?

What I see here is rules being applied to Potter that do not apply to Luke. You cannot have it both ways.

Incorrect.

The Harry Potter in the movies is directly from the books; why the books take precedence. EU Luke is AFTER the movies and is essentially like a separate entity.

This is EU Luke Vs Harry Potter, not Ep 4-6 Luke. It's a spite thread, if anything, as EU Luke is a beast and Harry Potter is a boy with a stick and some magic spells.

edit: Not that it matters though, even using a movie/film Harry Potter using his best from both mediums, EU Luke still obliterates him.

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Incorrect.

The Harry Potter in the movies is directly from the books; why the books take precedence. EU Luke is AFTER the movies and is essentially like a separate entity.

The Potter books and films have many discrepancies. See, if you read the books you'd know this.

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This is EU Luke Vs Harry Potter, not Ep 4-6 Luke. It's a spite thread, if anything, as EU Luke is a beast and Harry Potter is a boy with a stick and some magic spells.

This proves your flaming bias here. You have no right posting in a Potter thread.

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edit: Not that it matters though, even using a movie/film Harry Potter using his best from both mediums, EU Luke still obliterates him.

Depends on the setting, depends on many things.

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Lol, what? It's not similar at all. The thing is the EU does not contradict the films as they are in different time frames.

Plus, TBH, I still think the films are not part of HP canon. But I can relent on that.

Different time frames, yes. But the thing is, Luke is the same man he was in the movies, just more powerful, older and wiser.

It's the same universe, same planets, the same force, the same many things. The fact that the books are before/after the films is a crutch you are using.

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The Potter books and films have many discrepancies. See, if you read the books you'd know this.

That is exactly why the books take precedence: Due to those discrepencies.

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That is exactly why the books take precedence: Due to those discrepencies.

Because the books are the original media, right?

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Yes.

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The Potter books and films have many discrepancies. See, if you read the books you'd know this.

This proves your flaming bias here. You have no right posting in a Potter thread.

Depends on the setting, depends on many things.

Which is the point here; why in regards to Harry Potter (two mediums of the same character/events), the books take precedence when there's a conflict, as they came first.

LoL, wut? Explaining the sheer inequality of two characters is being biased?

No, not here. EU Luke outclasses film and book Harry Potter. Just a fact.

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Yes.

On that note, the SW films take precedence over the SW EU books, because the films are the original media.

Nov 24th, 2012 02:26 PM

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On that note, the SW films take precedence over the SW EU books, because the films are the original media.

Fine. Please point out where the films contradict an EU Luke feat and it will be stricken as usable or modified to fit the source material.

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Fine. Please point out where the films contradict an EU Luke feat?

Lol, get off the timeline thing. Timeline has nothing to do with it. Original media rules according to you guys, timeline is irrelevant.

Nov 24th, 2012 06:59 PM

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Lol, get off the timeline thing. Timeline has nothing to do with it. Original media rules according to you guys, timeline is irrelevant.

Where does it state that? If the EU books expand on the characters of the Star Wars universe, then why would original media matter? This is the ALL versus and not movie versus.

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Lol, get off the timeline thing. Timeline has nothing to do with it. Original media rules according to you guys, timeline is irrelevant.

No, it does matter. Original media rules when there's two of the same character events and there's a conflict.

There's no conflict concerning Star Wars film Luke and EU Luke.

If there was Harry Potter film made after the books, anything Potter does in those wouldn't be bound/restricted to the books.

Not that is matters though, even gimping Luke to Ep4-6 and allowing Harry Potter anything from the films and books, Luke would still likely win by a simply wave choking Potter out as his enhanced Jedi speed/reflexes/precog grant his first attack.

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Lol, get off the timeline thing. Timeline has nothing to do with it. Original media rules according to you guys, timeline is irrelevant.

Timeline has everything to do with it, you're just not intelligent enough to grasp the reasoning behind it.

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