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Mags stomps this.


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his fighting skills are.


I'd argue WW has always been better due to specific mentions of her training.
AQ is good, better than most bricks I'd argue and he has appearances that mention his training as a warrior, but WW traditionally is regarded as one of the most skilled class 100s. It's kind her "thing"

Though in the NuDCU not everything has been revealed. We know both of them had fighting experience before the JL vs Darkseid fight (and in AQ's case we've seen strategic feats also), but still WW is traditionally one of the top fighters.


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I'd argue WW has always been better due to specific mentions of her training.
AQ is good, better than most bricks I'd argue and he has appearances that mention his training as a warrior, but WW traditionally is regarded as one of the most skilled class 100s. It's kind her "thing"

Though in the NuDCU not everything has been revealed. We know both of them had fighting experience before the JL vs Darkseid fight (and in AQ's case we've seen strategic feats also), but still WW is traditionally one of the top fighters.
no doubt. But I was just saying he's up there. and with his skills speed strength gives him a high chance vs stronger people like hulk. Now before I get hate I'm not saying he will beat the hulk but he could and if water is around he could and would beat ww, hulk and more.

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no doubt. But I was just saying he's up there. and with his skills speed strength gives him a high chance vs stronger people like hulk. Now before I get hate I'm not saying he will beat the hulk but he could and if water is around he could and would beat ww, hulk and more.


I'll say that these fights would be a lot more tough than most people would like to admit (due to ignorance for AQ's abilities), but I don't think he could take out Hulk (due to his regen). He most certainly could hurt him with the trident, but Hulk is well Hulk, few characters can beat him physically (not counting anything above High Herald). But near water against WW would be a great fight. The few panels in JL 15 are an indication of this.


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It's early of course, but the feat is legit. I'm sure we'll see more of it.


it's a good feat, but it's not nearly enough to suggest he's as fast as diana, tbh.

he needs tons more feats.

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his fighting skills are.


as much as i wish that were true, he hasn't shown us proof of that.


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it's a good feat, but it's not nearly enough to suggest he's as fast as diana, tbh.

he needs tons more feats.



as much as i wish that were true, he hasn't shown us proof of that.


Yeah of course it's not enough to put him on Diana's level, but he is at least fast enough to tag her. Given her usual speed, that's impressive, more impressive than most ground "bricks". That's all I'm saying.

And I agree AQ is certainly very skilled, but not on WW's usual level.


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I'll say that these fights would be a lot more tough than most people would like to admit (due to ignorance for AQ's abilities), but I don't think he could take out Hulk (due to his regen). He most certainly could hurt him with the trident, but Hulk is well Hulk, few characters can beat him physically (not counting anything above High Herald). But near water against WW would be a great fight. The few panels in JL 15 are an indication of this.
yea it would be a kool fight him and ww. I have to ask tho you don't think aquaman can beat hulk in water I mean namor has. I've always seen them as tied in strength with a edge to AM cuz of other powers. Plus hulk is slow I think AM speed will help him vs hulk but you have a point hulk reg plus durability if he grabs AM its gonna get ugly.

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yea it would be a kool fight him and ww. I have to ask tho you don't think aquaman can beat hulk in water I mean namor has. I've always seen them as tied in strength with a edge to AM cuz of other powers. Plus hulk is slow I think AM speed will help him vs hulk but you have a point hulk reg plus durability if he grabs AM its gonna get ugly.


Current Hulk is far more impressive in the last decade. He can breath underwater now. AQ could do a lot of damage with the trident and his speed, but I really don't know if it's enough to physically KO Hulk. I also don't believe currently Namor would beat the Hulk.


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Namor generally has better feats of strength than Aquaman. Of course, the gap is getting a lot smaller nowadays.


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Namor generally has better feats of strength than Aquaman. Of course, the gap is getting a lot smaller nowadays.


I agree, but the point is that Hulk's regen and durability are far more impressive these days. Namor didn't get weaker (I think). It's just that Hulk has become kinda "broken" when it comes to physical confrontations.


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I agree, but the point is that Hulk's regen and durability are far more impressive these days. Namor didn't get weaker (I think). It's just that Hulk has become kinda "broken" when it comes to physical confrontations.
well it makes sense. The hulk should be a persona of physical power I do believe he should be faster no light speed or anything but like 700mph. Still water is aquamans kingdom and they should make him near unbeatable in it. I never understood why they never gave him control over water.

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I was speaking more about the gap between Aquaman and Namor than Hulk.

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well it makes sense. The hulk should be a persona of physical power I do believe he should be faster no light speed or anything but like 700mph. Still water is aquamans kingdom and they should make him near unbeatable in it. I never understood why they never gave him control over water.


Probably because of Mera. He had it with the water hand, which was cool I guess.


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I was speaking more about the gap between Aquaman and Namor than Hulk.



Probably because of Mera. He had it with the water hand, which was cool I guess.
I think it should be cannon in current comics. He should be to form it control every aspect of it. Still its good they are trying to give the character more shine. By the way I know namor has more strength feats but I always seen them as tied.

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I've heard good things of the recent incarnation of Aquaman.

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I think it should be cannon in current comics. He should be to form it control every aspect of it. Still its good they are trying to give the character more shine. By the way I know namor has more strength feats but I always seen them as tied.


I honestly prefer him without it, but fair enough.

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It's awesome. You should read it.


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Magneto needs his own series also.

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Have these boards really gotten this bad? This is crazy. MAGNETO stomps. I don't care how "fast" aquaman is. how he getting past being land locked? how he getting past the shields? how he getting past the fact that Magneto thinks far faster than a human?

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Current magneto obviously gets butt devastated.

Classic mags would decimate AQM.


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yes, current mags is like a low-mid meta, so most characters would wreck him. a fully functional magneto would seal the fight as soon as he raises a force-field. AM's only hope would be to blitz him before that to remove the helmet and mindrape or pummel him down very fast. taking into account mag's reaction times, his physical stats when channeling his powers, his tp resistance feats even without the helmet and their respective levels of CIS. mags would crush him IMO.

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Have these boards really gotten this bad? This is crazy. MAGNETO stomps. I don't care how "fast" aquaman is. how he getting past being land locked? how he getting past the shields? how he getting past the fact that Magneto thinks far faster than a human?


Being "land locked" isn't going to make a difference unless the fight becomes incredibly prolonged.

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yes, current mags is like a low-mid meta, so most characters would wreck him. a fully functional magneto would seal the fight as soon as he raises a force-field. AM's only hope would be to blitz him before that to remove the helmet and mindrape or pummel him down very fast. taking into account mag's reaction times, his physical stats when channeling his powers, his tp resistance feats even without the helmet and their respective levels of CIS. mags would crush him IMO.


Not that I disagree, but CIS?


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