Lol...the crazy thing about that movie is, Goku and Cooler was reacting moving at instantaneous speeds. Cooler even grabbed Goku while moving that fast.
The Coolers are proportionally closer to the opponent than the guard, and Goku won't give much opportunity to charge up bigger attacks. IT means they have a way to escape big blasts too.
I would note that Gohan's power, in SSJ2 form, was enough to fill up Fat Buu's power gauge by half.
Vegeta was supposed to be stronger than Gohan.
So Fat Buu would be somewhere between equal to to twice as strong as Majin Vegeta but he would not be exactly twice as strong or exactly equal to Vegeta since Vegeta was supposedly stronger than Gohan but not as strong as Fat Buu. Maaaaan, I could be wrong because I've only read the manga, twice, many years ago. I am basing my opinion off of the anime.
That is correct. Gohan at SJJ2 filled Fat boo's energy to "almost half", so if you factor that Vegeta was stronger then Gohan, Fat Boo was at maximum twice as strong as SJJ2 Vegeta, but probably weaker then that since pré-Majin power boost, Vegeta was already acting as he was stronger then Gohan, probably by remembering his SJJ2 Cell games' state, which is by all acounts stronger then SJJ2 Gohan at Boo saga.
So basically it would be something like like this:
Seeing that, sing SSJ3=4xSSJ2, goku was at around twice as strong as Fat Boo, maybe even slightly more. It just happens we didn't know that at the time the Goku didn't want to kill him on his own even if he could (which he stated later).
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I don't think using Fat Buu fight against Vegeta is a legit fight to use, especially since Majin was fresh out of his shell that was holding him and he was adjusting from being trapped for no telling how long.
Was it stated that the energy required to release Fat Buu from the Ball was proportional to the amount of energy Fat Buu himself possessed? I don't recall such.
Anyway, we know that SSJ3 Goku could have beaten Fat Buu, but in order to do so he would have had to go "all out". This implies that Fat Buu was at least close to base SSJ3 Goku's level(which is 4x>SSJ2), before he[Goku] fully powered up. This also explains why Super Buu(who was >> Fat Buu) was also "far stronger" than SSJ3 Goku.
That said, I cannot agree that SSJ3 Goku was 2-3x more powerful than Fat Buu.
I don't want to enter in another pointless and stupid ssj3 goku vs mystic gohan conversation but in no point in manga it was stated that Super boo was far stronger then Fat Boo or Ssj3 goku.
Neither it was implied that Fat Boo was close to Ssj3 goku by the end of the saga. And of course his energy should be proportional, that's why they were trying to get him KI in the first place. Besides there are nothing in the manga that states otherwise, and the Fat boo=2x ssj2 seems quite a possible and consistent number.
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So if Fat Buu was weaker than SSJ3 Goku, and SSJ3 Goku was a little more than "slightly" stronger than Kid Buu, and Kid Buu was date raping Fat Buu i think we can conclude that Super Buu>>>>SSJ3 Goku>>Kid Buu>>>>>>Fat Buu.
Which would surely put Super Buu in the "far stronger" catagory compared to at least Fat Buu. And the fact that Goku wanted absolutely no part of Super Buu shows that he was convinced Super Buu was far stronger than himself
Goku outright stated that Super Buu was "FAR too strong" for him to even try to fight-- which tells us that Super Buu>>>SSJ3 Goku.
We also know that Goku could have beaten Fat Buu had he not held back(confirmed on panel), and that he also could have beaten Kid Buu "in an instant" had he not squandered his powers during the outset of their battle, which prevented him from fully powering up as a SSJ3(confirmed on panel.)
...And it goes without saying that Mystic Gohan was vastly more powerful than Super Buu.
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